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Girl Accidentally Shot in the Head at Missouri Range - 500 S&W
Link here...shooting-death-at-gun-range-believed-accidental/
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Did you read the article ?
What tendency do you speak of ?
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The tendency for those revolvers to spin back and fire on someone with a weak grip. She's not the first.
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Accidents happen and that was a terrible one.
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It's not funny and is obviously dangerous
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One reason to only load one round on a new firearm that someone has never fired.. the NRA basic firearms safety class teaches this until the shooter is more adept at firing more than a single round..
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And that's what you call being responsible.
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The same thing that happens with any firearm when you can't handle it properly? Better fix every AK, AR, 1911, glock, M&P, desert eagle, etc. as well Done intentionally it would be bump firing.
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What I don't understand is why don't they load it one at a time if the person is small framed and has little to no experience shooting such a beast of a caliber. That way after the first shot it can't go off again with no more rounds in the weapon.
Even myself I would try just 1 round to get a feel for handling it first since I've never fired the 500 SW. I saw another youtube video where the muzzle flip hit the girl in the face muzzle first and if she pulled the trigger again on accident she would have been like this poor girl. |
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But what is the DA trigger pull weight of a 500? I guess the only possible explanation is that the recoil of the gun made the shooter feel like she was loosing her grip so she squeezed her hand firing another round.
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I never said it can't happen with any firearm, but the frequency it happens with the S&W 500 is considerably higher than any of the firearms you listed. Combined with the high recoil / muzzle flip of the 500, a 2nd shot can be aimed at yourself or someone else on the firing line, where a Glock would still be more or less down range. Pretending this isn't an acute issue with this firearm is simply denial.
Last edited by stix213; 12-06-2013 at 10:26 AM.. |
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had a buddy who would only load a round in every other chamber, he would load one, skip one, load one, skip one etc...always wondered about it, til he finally told me what he was trying to keep from happening, especially with weaker wristed people...now I've got a better idea of what he meant
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Agreed. I did this when new to this firearm, or ANYONE I introduce it to, also use less powerful loads and work your way up. But common sense is no longer common.
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Agreed. I did this when new to this firearm, or ANYONE I introduce it to, also use less powerful loads and work your way up. Not to mention wearing a padded glove. But common sense is no longer common.
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Recoil Chart
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If that's the case, I assume you can point to where in the manual or on the firearm the manufacturer tells the user to only load one round for new shooters? If it doesn't say that then the MANUFACTURER should address that |
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Always start out small and work your way up in caliber to beginning shooters. My wife when she first started worked on a 22 and managed to get comfortable with my 9mm. She shot my 45 once and said it is a bit much so i stopped there. No way she can handle my 357 or 44 mag. The person that handed this poor girl that 500 had a lot of poor judgement.
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Actually I agree with all the: never hand a 500 with more than one round to anyone weak or first time.
But it is more than that, the 500 produces enough recoil that we have actually seen rounds discharge from the recoil alone (leaving a lead skidmark on the side of the barrel). A 500 S&W is not a firearm for anyone without experience, period. It is very powerful and accidents happen much too easily. Double or even triple fires are not uncommon and thankfully the recoil ignition is pretty rare.
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I took some new shooters to the indoor range a few weeks ago and I only gave them 1 round of 9mm a time to start. They were from New Zealand where gun ownership is unheard of. Point being you never know how someone is going to react to an explosion in their hands.
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People know it has a crapload of recoil, people know it's a powerful handgun, even without knowing about the possibility of the double tap, anyone with half a brain should realize that on their own before handing it to someone. Do you seriously support that legalese bull**** paragraphs on the side of guns to warn people that they might be dangerous? |
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Because people are dying unintentionally. That isn't a good enough reason?
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Here's the S&W high speed cam video they used in their investigation to determine it was unintentional bump firing Yes people know it is a powerful handgun, but not everyone knows that makes to prone to unintentional bump firing far more than any other handgun on the market. Bump firing is not typically considered a double action revolver phenomena. Might be worth it for the manufacturer to mention that. Last edited by stix213; 12-06-2013 at 12:01 PM.. |
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Probly doesn't happen too often with single actions
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Were talking about a hand CANNON here, not a hand gun.
They should make a 500 single action option for woman and sissys
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