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Old 12-22-2017, 8:44 AM
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A friend is trying to apply for her CCW in Yolo County. They have told her she needs to have completed the training course and include her certificate with the application. Does this sound right ???

Any recommendations for instructors in the Vacaville, Fairfield, Davis or Woodland areas ???

Thank you in advance for your help....
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Old 12-22-2017, 8:49 AM
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Only that if she even gets it in Yolo county she should thank her lucky stars since we live in a "shall not issue" county.

She may be able to contact Yolo Sportsman Association (530) 662-2349 for training referrals, they should have something.
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No they cannot require her to get training just to submit the application. It is the law. And Yolo is not really issuing new permits. Sounds like they are giving her the rope-a-dope.

PC26190(g)

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(g) Except as authorized pursuant to this section, no requirement, charge, assessment, fee, or condition that requires the payment of any additional funds by the applicant, or requires the applicant to obtain liability insurance, may be imposed by any licensing authority as a condition of the application for a license.

PC26202. Training comes after they decide to issue.

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26202. Upon making the determination of good cause pursuant to Section 26150 or 26155, the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant of the licensing authority s determination. If the licensing authority determines that good cause exists, the notice shall inform the applicants to proceed with the training requirements specified in Section 26165. If the licensing authority determines that good cause does not exist, the notice shall inform the applicant that the request for a license has been denied and shall state the reason from the department s published policy, described in Section 26160, as to why the determination was made.

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(g) An applicant shall not be required to complete any additional application or form for a license, or to provide any information other than that necessary to complete the standard application form described in subdivision (a), except to clarify or interpret information provided by the applicant on the standard application form.
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Sounds like YCSD is playing games....
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Thank you for your replies.

I looked at the online application and they do ask for the certificate of training as well as firearm information.....

Just doesn't sound right.... Makes me happy that I live in Ventura County with an awesome Sheriff...... I didn't have to complete training or provide any firearm information until I had passed the background ....
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I have passed along the information, Thank you again for all of your replies & help...
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The app I picked up some years back stated proof of training was needed before the ccw was approved but not needed at time of application submission. They also had a list of approved trainers in the area and would not accept any other than those listed. This was some years ago so things may be different.

Short version of Prieto's history: was sued and in the end, he won. So getting a ccw in Yolo for the most part comes down to handling large amounts of cash on a daily basis and nearly nothing else will he consider good cause.

Speaking to someone in another dept (CHP) familiar with Prieto; he was not a fan of ccw before the lawsuit and is even less so now. The majority of renewals go unanswered and/or his dept takes their sweet azz time processing them.

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Greetings all,

Since Undersheriff Lopez is running against Prieto does anyone know his stance on CCW?
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Greetings all,

Since Undersheriff Lopez is running against Prieto does anyone know his stance on CCW?
Ive heard secondhand he is Pro 2a
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Don’t get your hopes up, this is an excerpt from a statement Lopez gave to the Davis Enterprise. Typical “I believe in the 2nd Amendment but...”

“Other policies Lopez plans to leave intact if he’s elected. Deputies would continue to abstain from performing immigration enforcement, and he’d maintain the current criteria for issuing concealed-weapon permits.


I do believe our policy has merit, and it’s an area that I want to have a conversation with the community about,” said Lopez, who thinks there are some who perceive the agency doesn’t issue CCW permits at all.

In fact, about 300 of them have been granted under the policy, which requires applicants to demonstrate “good cause” for seeking the permit, such as a threat of falling victim to violent crime.

While a proponent of the Second Amendment right to bear arms, “I am a firm believer that not everyone is entitled to have one,” Lopez said.
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Don’t get your hopes up, this is an excerpt from a statement Lopez gave to the Davis Enterprise. Typical “I believe in the 2nd Amendment but...”

“Other policies Lopez plans to leave intact if he’s elected. Deputies would continue to abstain from performing immigration enforcement, and he’d maintain the current criteria for issuing concealed-weapon permits.

I do believe our policy has merit, and it’s an area that I want to have a conversation with the community about,” said Lopez, who thinks there are some who perceive the agency doesn’t issue CCW permits at all.

In fact, about 300 of them have been granted under the policy
, which requires applicants to demonstrate “good cause” for seeking the permit, such as a threat of falling victim to violent crime.

While a proponent of the Second Amendment right to bear arms, “I am a firm believer that not everyone is entitled to have one,” Lopez said.
Here's the link for that quote:
https://www.davisenterprise.com/loca...mmunity-trust/

Lopez won.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/loca...sheriffs-race/

If he really wants to "have a conversation with the community" about CCWs, that means you people who live in Yolo Co need to watch for every community meeting where he will be speaking/on a panel and make sure to ask him why Sacto has issued, IIRC, >8,000 CCWs when Yolo has just a few hundred.

Remember to make the comparison valid by comparing rate CCWers per 1,000 in population (or adult population). You may even use the numbers for OC (a more urban county yet), where they've issued >12,000 CCWs for their 3.2M population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._in_California

Don't be hostile, just know your stuff and don't back down.

Lopez will have to work hard to be worse than Prieto....
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Lopez will have to work hard to be worse than Prieto....
Focusing on this: best to get your applications ready to submit in January, maybe even by Dec 01 in case Piereto(sp?), decides to retire before the holidays since he's on his way out come January regardless.

While it is highly unlikely Lopez will take Yolo to light or dark green initially, I could see it go to light red or even yellow. So, for those of you who have solid GC (e.g., small business owner who makes regular large cash deposits, have police reports re. stalker, etc), be ready to apply and, if you do, please let the rest of us know how it went by posting on CGN (but not with so much info as to ID yourself).

The sooner we can get applicants through the process or denied, the sooner we'll know know what "color" Yolo is under Lopez.
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Below I have copy and pasted an email i sent to Yolo County regarding CCW. Below that is there answer to my question. Guess I wont be moving there !

Good Morning
I am a CCW permit holder for the past 4 years in Placer County, I am a General Contractor and also work for the Department of General Services w/ the State of California as a Construction Manager Supervisor. My wife and I are looking at properties in Clarksburg Ca. to build a new home and workshop. We are looking in Clarksburg because of the cool river breeze and the nice quite grass strip at the Clarksburg Airport. Can you tell me the likelihood of obtaining a CCW for Yolo Co. I would also like to know Sheriff Prieto stance on the 2nd Amendment and CCW’s for law abiding citizens in Yolo County. Sheriff Prieto stance on this is very important to me for the protection of my family. Your Website say’s just cause is needed for CCW. What is considered just cause for Yolo? Is personal & family protection adequate just cause? If I would not be able get a CCW for Yolo County it would be a deal breaker for me to buy property and move to Yolo County. Thank you for your time in advance.


Marc, thank you for your email and your interest in living in Yolo County. I am the Sergeant that oversees the CCW program. Based on the information you gave, If you are a business owner who carries large sums of money and or valuable equipment then you would most likely qualify under our policy. You can read our policy on our website. We will not issue a permit based on your being an employee of someone else, the Sheriff’s view is that your employer has an obligation to provide you with protection while you are under their employment.



As for Sheriff’s Prieto’s views on the 2nd Amendment I cannot answer for him. I am told that our policies are more restrictive than other agencies however they have been upheld by the Supreme Court. Having said that we will be getting a new Sheriff in January 2018 when Tom Lopez is sworn in. He has made statements that he does not intend to change the current policies but he is also open to discussions’ about them.



“Good Cause” is a legitimate reason to have the permit. Personal protection is not considered as a “Good Cause” reason under our current policy. There are examples listed of “Good Cause” reasons listed in the policy however each application is evaluated on its own details.
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Marc, thank you for your email and your interest in living in Yolo County. I am the Sergeant that oversees the CCW program. Based on the information you gave, If you are a business owner who carries large sums of money and or valuable equipment then you would most likely qualify under our policy. You can read our policy on our website. We will not issue a permit based on your being an employee of someone else, the Sheriff’s view is that your employer has an obligation to provide you with protection while you are under their employment.
So, if your job requires you to carry valuables, you can't get a CCW -- the business owner should provide armed protection for you.

But if the business owner himself does that same job he can get a CCW -- he does NOT have to provide armed protection for himself???

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As for Sheriff’s Prieto’s views on the 2nd Amendment I cannot answer for him. I am told that our policies are more restrictive than other agencies however they have been upheld by the Supreme Court.
More The US Sup Ct denied cert in Peruta: they did NOT decide ANYTHING re. it. They just allowed the CA9 en banc decision to stand.

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Having said that we will be getting a new Sheriff in January 2018 when Tom Lopez is sworn in. He has made statements that he does not intend to change the current policies but he is also open to discussions’ about them.
This is your only hope in Yolo Co for the foreseeable future. Sure, Nat'l Reciprocity may help you (directly if the House bill, indirectly if the Senate version), and there's various Carry cases that we'll probably win if Trump gets his picks for judges on CA9 on the bench and Kavanaugh gets on SCOTUS. But who knows if/when that will ever happen.

Best to choose a light or dark green county:
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... we will be getting a new Sheriff in January 2018 when Tom Lopez is sworn in. He has made statements that he does not intend to change the current policies but he is also open to discussions’ about them.
As I've said before, Yolo Co people had better organize NOW to be ready for the "meet & greet"/Q&A events Lopez will have where he'll want to hear from the audience, you the voters, re. what you think of CCWs, why and why he should change/liberalize the current GC standard. That will be your best chance to get him to liberalize his issuance and for you to get CCWs. DO NOT WASTE IT!!!

Don't think you'll be able to wing it at the last minute and so dazzle him with your oratory skills he'll switch to SD = GC. Prepare and practice ahead of time.

Plus, he may take office early, as early as mid-Nov, if Prieto decides to quit before the holidays. That will push things even sooner.
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bump to remind Yolo Co folk to start watching their local newspapers, websites, TV news and radio news for when Tom Lopez, your next sheriff, will be holding "meet & greet"/Q&A events. When you hear about them, be sure to post details here ahead of time so that others can also attend. You need to show him that there is voter support/demand for CCWs.

Best to change his attitude to liberalizing issuance BEFORE he takes office and is preoccupied by all the responsibilities that entails.

ETA: Here's the exact quote from Lopez's campaign website:

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Conceal Carry Weapons Permits (CCW):

I’m not planning to make any changes to the current policy. In my experience there is quite a bit of misinformation and misunderstanding, and because the topic is very emotionally charged any past dialogue has been difficult.

I’d like to start by bringing people together to talk. After a thorough dialogue, we’ll have a clearer picture and can proceed from there. But I absolutely commit to an inclusive, open and transparent discussion.
From: https://tomlopez4sheriff.com/issues/

His website had "buttons"/links at the top right for both his campaign's Facebook page and email to contact him to find out how to be a part of that "talk" and "thorough dialogue" re. CCWs: https://tomlopez4sheriff.com/join-us/

ETA2: FWIW, don't expect me to do this for you: I don't live in Yolo Co.
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