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9mm vs .45
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5.7 stinks for stopping people...the round has been around since the 90's and has a miserable stopping effectiveness
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I was jk -- Fort Hood shooter killed 13 and injured 30 with 214 rounds of SS192 in 10 minutes.
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Interested read, thanks for posting.
I did find this to be kind of amusing though: Quote:
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Workplace violence.
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Since the military uses FMJ ball ammo it should be a simple numbers game. A 230 gr .45 ACP at 880 FPS delivers 395 ft lbs of energy and has a 7 round capacity in a 1911. A 124 gr 9mm at 1150 FPS delivers 364 ft lbs of energy and has a 15 round capacity in a Glock 19. Both rounds deliver approximately the same amount of energy with the .45 delivering 31 ft lbs more, negligible at best. The Glock 19 in 9mm gives you twice the capacity about the same over all weight (one loaded magazine + gun) as the 1911 in .45 ACP.
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It’s not about capacity
It’s all about hitting your target. If you hit your target on the first round then the other 14 in your Glock or 6 in your 1911 don’t matter I sure hope I never get into a gunfight but if I know ahead of time that I am going to. I will be going with my SAA with 5 rounds at the ready. Why ? Because I shoot my SAA far more than my 1911, 92fs, P226 combined and I have far more confidence in abilities with my SAA then any other gun. Of course given the advance notice of a gunfight I just won’t be there. I will be in another county Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Having more rounds is great if you plan on missing a lot.
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^^ well said. |
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do you want this thread to blow up?
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Military can now use M1152 and M1153 9mm ammunition. M1153 being 147g hollow points. Both made by Winchester.
Military are expected to confront more than one attacker at an engagement, higher round capacity will provide higher survival rate. And 9mm weights less than 45ACP to carry around all day. |
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