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Old 07-23-2019, 9:24 AM
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Default 9mm vs .45

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...ial-operators/

Maybe this is a dupe.
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https://blog.mysanantonio.com/milita...zine-capacity/
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A dupe? G19 was purchased by MARSOC back in 2015.
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5.7 stinks for stopping people...the round has been around since the 90's and has a miserable stopping effectiveness
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5.7 stinks for stopping people...the round has been around since the 90's and has a miserable stopping effectiveness
I was jk -- Fort Hood shooter killed 13 and injured 30 with 214 rounds of SS192 in 10 minutes.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:08 AM
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Interested read, thanks for posting.

I did find this to be kind of amusing though:

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Even though the .45-caliber cartridge has more propellant, the 9mm round usually has more penetrating power because the smaller round faces less air resistance on its nose as it files through the air, said Neil Clapperton, a firearms and forensic expert with the Rhode Island State Crime Laboratory.
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I was jk -- Fort Hood shooter killed 13 and injured 30 with 214 rounds of SS192 in 10 minutes.
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Since the military uses FMJ ball ammo it should be a simple numbers game. A 230 gr .45 ACP at 880 FPS delivers 395 ft lbs of energy and has a 7 round capacity in a 1911. A 124 gr 9mm at 1150 FPS delivers 364 ft lbs of energy and has a 15 round capacity in a Glock 19. Both rounds deliver approximately the same amount of energy with the .45 delivering 31 ft lbs more, negligible at best. The Glock 19 in 9mm gives you twice the capacity about the same over all weight (one loaded magazine + gun) as the 1911 in .45 ACP.
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It’s not about capacity

It’s all about hitting your target.

If you hit your target on the first round then the other 14 in your Glock or 6 in your 1911 don’t matter

I sure hope I never get into a gunfight but if I know ahead of time that I am going to. I will be going with my SAA with 5 rounds at the ready. Why ? Because I shoot my SAA far more than my 1911, 92fs, P226 combined and I have far more confidence in abilities with my SAA then any other gun. Of course given the advance notice of a gunfight I just won’t be there. I will be in another county




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Since the military uses FMJ ball ammo it should be a simple numbers game. A 230 gr .45 ACP at 880 FPS delivers 395 ft lbs of energy and has a 7 round capacity in a 1911. A 124 gr 9mm at 1150 FPS delivers 364 ft lbs of energy and has a 15 round capacity in a Glock 19. Both rounds deliver approximately the same amount of energy with the .45 delivering 31 ft lbs more, negligible at best. The Glock 19 in 9mm gives you twice the capacity about the same over all weight (one loaded magazine + gun) as the 1911 in .45 ACP.
HMMMM , My .45 carries 14 +1 ( Para Ord ). Sounds like my 45 beats the Glock .
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A dupe? G19 was purchased by MARSOC back in 2015.
And the article in the link was published on September 30, 2016.
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It’s not about capacity

It’s all about hitting your target.

If you hit your target on the first round then the other 14 in your Glock or 6 in your 1911 don’t matter
Mikey gets it.

Having more rounds is great if you plan on missing a lot.
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HMMMM , My .45 carries 14 +1 ( Para Ord ). Sounds like my 45 beats the Glock .
Any 1911 beats glocks. Why? Read the following quote which is spot on.

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Having more rounds is great if you plan on missing a lot.
^^ well said.
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"9mm kills your body, .45 kills your soul."


Also, no love for the .40?

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"9mm kills your body, .45 kills your soul."


Also, no love for the .40?

do you want this thread to blow up?
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Military can now use M1152 and M1153 9mm ammunition. M1153 being 147g hollow points. Both made by Winchester.

Military are expected to confront more than one attacker at an engagement, higher round capacity will provide higher survival rate. And 9mm weights less than 45ACP to carry around all day.
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After reading the article, it seemed their ‘ultimate’ reason for choosing 9mm over .45 was because.... 9mm is ‘cheaper.’
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