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Old 10-06-2016, 2:21 PM
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Are they discontinued?

I don't see them on their website but I see a few for sale like Gander Mntn, gun broker etc.
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Old 10-06-2016, 2:23 PM
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Are they discontinued?

I don't see them on their website but I see a few for sale like Gander Mntn, gun broker etc.
Probably are. You might as well just build an AR15 with the Thordsen FRS Stock
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Does Ares even exist anymore?
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Does Ares even exist anymore?
Nope they're gone. Under new ownership. They still suck.
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Nope they're gone. Under new ownership. They still suck.

Not Ares Armor, the Oceanside gun shop and erstwhile manufacturer, now known as American Weapons Components. This is Ares Defense of Florida.

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Originally founded in 1997 as "ARES Defense Systems" by company CEO and avid shooting enthusiast Geoffrey A. Herring; the company began a name transition to FightLite Industries in mid-2016 to be more reflective of its product offerings and to honor its R&D division that conceives and develops the company's ideas and inventions.
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FightLite Industries provides spare parts, service and manufacturer support of ARES Defense-manufactured products and plans to maintain ARES, ARES Defense and related logos and product names as sub-brands of FightLite Industries. ARES Defense & FightLite Industries products are available through established channels of sporting goods wholesalers, box stores, FFL dealers, online retailers and factory direct.
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wow wtf? Can't believe they would discontinue those seeing as how they would have had a virtual monopoly on ARs in CA after Jan 01
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Nothing on GB now, lots of "Not in Stock" at on line stores. Gander shows complete rifles for about $750.00. I already have one but wouldn't mind another, seems odd that they would discontinue. I was surprised though that they didn't seem to be particularly popular even in CA. The LGS didn't exactly have them flying off the shelves.
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So glad I picked up a lower. Such a wonderful rifle.
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Magnum gun range in Corona ca had on a few weeks ago.
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The turners near me had one a couple years ago and I think they couldn't sell it. Maybe it was a bad one but it was a piece of junk. I posted my thoughts on it here. The trigger was something horrific like 20 lbs.

The guy behind the counter took it apart and couldn't get it back together, just a bad example. I couldn't imagine it taking off back then.
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Looks kinda cool.
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rebranding or sold company I guess

http://nyfirearms.com/forums/rifles/...e-you-can.html
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https://www.facebook.com/FightLite/?fref=ts

On the facebook page, they state they are still making them. Just getting the website together and such. It can't have passed them by that they'll have a CA ready compliance monopoly.
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The turners near me had one a couple years ago and I think they couldn't sell it. Maybe it was a bad one but it was a piece of junk. I posted my thoughts on it here. The trigger was something horrific like 20 lbs.

The guy behind the counter took it apart and couldn't get it back together, just a bad example. I couldn't imagine it taking off back then.

All the new ones ship with the newer/lighter trigger....


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All the new ones ship with the newer/lighter trigger....


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I have an "original trigger" version and don't find it to be an issue. I like light triggers, Rem 40X types and all that. But the ARES trigger is better than a stock AR or my Benelli MR1, it's just odd. Some light take up, then a bit heavier take up and then the pull. If treated as a single stage I understand the "it sucks" but as a staged trigger it's OK. Not great, but OK.

Then again I have a Winchester 88 ......
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Old 10-07-2016, 9:59 AM
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That sucks theyd have monopoly here. Plus its the best looking one
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off topic but... wtf is the point of a $3,000 Belt fed AR?
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@S30 how do you like the MRO on the SCR? Is the sight height GTG or did you have to find some other type of mount?

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I have an "original trigger" version and don't find it to be an issue. I like light triggers, Rem 40X types and all that. But the ARES trigger is better than a stock AR or my Benelli MR1, it's just odd. Some light take up, then a bit heavier take up and then the pull. If treated as a single stage I understand the "it sucks" but as a staged trigger it's OK. Not great, but OK.

Then again I have a Winchester 88 ......
Haha! I have an 88 as well, the trigger is pretty bad......

That aside.....why would they have a "virtual monopoly" after the 2017? Are all of our featureless options going up in smoke?
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Looks to be ok, I used a standard low Trijicon mount. Im about to head to the range and zero it in. I can still see the irons thought it, I would compare it to an AR with 1/3 co witness.

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are there other stock options for it? would love the Magpul 870/590 stock for that rifle. adaptor maybe?
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are there other stock options for it? would love the Magpul 870/590 stock for that rifle. adaptor maybe?
Guys put 1100 stocks on them, the 870 doesnt have the right angle for the recoil spring tube.

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The turners near me had one a couple years ago and I think they couldn't sell it. Maybe it was a bad one but it was a piece of junk. I posted my thoughts on it here. The trigger was something horrific like 20 lbs.

The guy behind the counter took it apart and couldn't get it back together, just a bad example. I couldn't imagine it taking off back then.
Triggers have been fixed. In fact and old trigger packs out there will be upgraded for free by Ares/Fightlite.

Assembly can be difficult if you're not mechanically inclined or haven't read the manual. Once you figure it out, its not all that bad.
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Are they discontinued?

I don't see them on their website but I see a few for sale like Gander Mntn, gun broker etc.
THANK YOU! I've been looking for another one of these for a long while now. I originally bought just the lower, but for a couple hundred more, it'll be good to have a spare in case these are truly discontinued.

This one is going to get a Faxon 7.62x39 upper and I'm going to try adding a Magpul SGA for the 870 after I remove the buffer tube. Stoked.

My current one.

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THANK YOU! I've been looking for another one of these for a long while now. I originally bought just the lower, but for a couple hundred more, it'll be good to have a spare in case these are truly discontinued.

This one is going to get a Faxon 7.62x39 upper and I'm going to try adding a Magpul SGA for the 870 after I remove the buffer tube. Stoked.

My current one.

Let us know how the Magpul SGA stock would fit (need to modify?)

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Triggers have been fixed. In fact and old trigger packs out there will be upgraded for free by Ares/Fightlite.

Assembly can be difficult if you're not mechanically inclined or haven't read the manual. Once you figure it out, its not all that bad.
If they got th trigger worked out I'd like to handle one again.

I expect other companies to start designing compliant rifles. There's too much money to be made in this market for them to just abandon California!
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If they got th trigger worked out I'd like to handle one again.

I expect other companies to start designing compliant rifles. There's too much money to be made in this market for them to just abandon California!
Its like 5-7lb break. Typical low end AR trigger. You can put one of the JP Yellow springs in it and the break is lighter iirc.
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Let us know how the Magpul SGA stock would fit (need to modify?)

thanks!
Yeah it'd take a little bit of dremel work to get it to seat properly. The catch is you have to use a piston type upper cause the buffer tube would have to come out.
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So does this make my SCR a collector's item?


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The catch is you have to use a piston type upper cause the buffer tube would have to come out.
No, not just any piston upper -- it would have to be one in which the spring is contained in the upper. Not every piston upper is so equipped; certain manufacturers use proprietary systems that eliminate the standard buffer system.
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No, not just any piston upper -- it would have to be one in which the spring is contained in the upper. Not every piston upper is so equipped; certain manufacturers use proprietary systems that eliminate the standard buffer system.
Good point. I'm thinking about the ARAK which is all in the upper.
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Good point. I'm thinking about the ARAK which is all in the upper.
are there other options besides the Faxon ARAK?
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off topic but... wtf is the point of a $3,000 Belt fed AR?
Really cool if you happen to have an M16 lower.
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if the company changed their name..likely they also had to change their FFL which means a delay in new production.
The smoother transition plan is to setup the new company name and FFL before closing down the old one.
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The exile machine headbutt adapter turns any AR into a sporter.
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are there other options besides the Faxon ARAK?
Maybe an upper from a Rock River Arms LAR-PDS, although I don't believe RRA sells the uppers separately.

The problem with speculating about uppers that use over-the-barrel spring systems is that without seeing a particular model, you can't really tell how proprietary it is. The question I would be worried about is not whether one of these uppers will bolt on to the SCR lower, but whether the internal spring system requires some kind of unusual bolt carrier to interface with the spring. If that's the case, you're probably precluded from using the equally proprietary shortened bolt carrier that's required for an SCR to function, and the whole idea is torpedoed.
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