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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Hard to keep it covered with a little one
My daughter just turned 1 and when we are out I am constantly bending over, picking her up, on my shoulders, off my shoulders, up in the air etc etc etc. Even when I carry her in my arms she pulsl my shirt/jacket up and it's like HELLO!
I am 6'1" and already buy large for me shirts and if I go any larger they just get wider and not longer. I bought a shirt from big and tall and I looked like I was wearing a sleeping bag. I always carry IWB but it's starting to make appearances now and I'm not comfortable with that. Last night my wife and I were walking around an outdoor mall and I was playing with my daughter and doing all the normal stuff when my wife noticed my jacket was wraped behind the grip fully exposing me. How do those of you with little kids keep it hidden all the time? There is about a 0% chance I'll leave home without it and even less of a chance I'll ignore my daughter. |
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Tried that route and it prints like crazy with all the bending over and even got wedged between the holster and grip a couple times.
Is there a particular one you have had success with? |
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Carry child opposite side of IWB holster.
Choose different over garment, it's easier for me since it snows where I am and wear lots of coats etc. I like the Dickies hoodie sweaters, they seem taller/longer than the Champion hoodie I also wear frequently. This period is only temporary, soon your child will be walking on their own and will no longer need to be carried, shouldered, airplane spins etc. Other alternative is pocket carry, but that mainly depends on what your CCW is. I started pocket carrying when I first got my XDs, but the comfort of the IWB holster has taken precedence over pocket carrying. I'll revisit once spring hits and back to wearing shorts etc.
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Get a REAL SMALL pocket carry. Ruger LCP it's only a .380 but better then nothing. Then as the little one gets older go back to what you EDC is now. You may also find that it is nice to have a LITTLE pocket carry on hot days as you can carry it in shorts
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Pocket Carry while they need to be carried around or picked up allot.
Once the little ones start moving around on their own you can probably go back to a more full-framed gun on the hip. However, I'll warn you now, my grand children have given themselves some nasty whacks when running in for a surprise hug. Both of mine have brained themselves at least once...you've gotta be a ninja to keep affectionate children from hurting themselves |
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OP, been there so I feel for you. I'm 5'10" and about 150, so it's not easy to hide a large pistol on my hip.
Holsters matter a lot. I currently have a DeSantis for a sungle stack 9 and hate it. It just doesn't fit me well. Meanwhile, my favorite is a compact Minotaur. Excellent for me IWB. A loose shirt and it's hidden. I'll second the advice to consider pocket carry at times. I have another DeSantis holster for that same small 9 that is for picket carry and I like that one a lot. Doesn't work well with jeans, but cargo shirts or slacks and it all but disappears. Another option is a belly holster. When out jogging or working out, I wear a Pistolwear brand neoprene belly holster. Even a double stack, full size .45 is concealed with a t-shirt. BellyBand also makes one of these. |
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6 month old and 3 year old. I pocket carry when running around with kahr p380. Im 6'1 180 and wear 2x t shirts shrunk in multiple washes lol.
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Carry your weapon on the small of your back (literally between your butt-crack) and tug in your shirt either over the holster if the holster is tuckable or tuck in your shirt below your belt if the holster wont accomoate tucking.
This spot prints the least from experience.
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I either pocket carry or use an IWB for my J frame. Nice thing about my holster (www.oldfaithful.com) is you can adjust depth such that grip is just above belt, slightly eclipsed, 3:45 position, no way visible in normal fitting tee. Only drawback is hard to draw quickly. I actually have two of these holsters for same j frame one for deep conceal the other rides higher, (left more leather, more kydex) rapid draw is fast. These holsters are about $35 and super easy to mod to yer bod.
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Printing is still covered. Get over printing and dont worry about it. Carrying some POS pocket pistol is a terrible idea. Not sure whey people feel protected with something they cant shoot. If those people think I am wrong they take that same gun and go shoot an entire match or class with it.
You will simply have to be more aware of your shirt and check it. I still do this and I am in the field of physical therapy where I am doing the same as you but with people I dont want to know I have a gun. You can do it, just be more aware of your clothing. |
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I am not sure what kind of clothing you wear. I honestly don't know how a J-Frame can dissapear into a pocket. At least for me it cant. I'm 6' and about 200# average build and wear clothes on the less loose side. So pocket carry is out of the question, my phone wont even go in the front pocket without having a flat square print on my thigh.
With that being said, it is very hard to carry while dealing with kids. My worst nightmare is getting my daughter in and out of her carseat. I carry a Glock 23 IWB mostly, and OWB with a thin fleece jacket. So I would have to say if you want to carry a gun that isnt compact in any way then your best bet may just be to dress around the gun. I usually wear a Columbia Steeds Fleece jacket and can carry in my OWB and have most full range of motion. If I am IWB with that, I have no problem with the daily movements of handing kids. |
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Yeah, get a raven vanguard trigger guard and carry the gun with just that, in the appendix carry fashion. Use the draw string to tie around your belt, or belt loop, and It doesnt print, and you can move around a lot easier. Also, you can glance down easier to see that you are covering correctly.
You can make the draw string as tight, or as slack as you want, but the pistol will stay in place better with it tight. You belt is your retention. I dont want to wear sleeping-bag style clothes either, so this was the best option http://www.ravenconcealment.com/othe...nguard-holster |
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Thunderwear is also a good solution. My kids are 5 and 3 1/2 and both still want me to carry them everywhere - mostly on my neck. You've got a lot of years left before your daughter will not want to be carried in some way.
I normally carry my CZ RAMI or J-Frame IWB appendix, but if I know I'm going to be in a situation where the kids will want to be picked up a lot, I will occasionally switch to Thunderwear (J-Frame) or pocket carry (J-Frame or S&W Bodyguard 380). |
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Go see Grantor2 for ideas
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AIWB moves the weapon to directly in front of you where it's much easier to monitor the status and know more quickly when you're exposed...and/or catching it before you are exposed. However, it's may or may not lend itself well to bending over and picking up a little one. It just kinda depends on the gun, holster and/or your body type. It might also present some problems holding a little one. However, if you're carrying at 1-2 o'clock, it leaves your entire left side open for carrying a kid.
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I'll wear an undershirt and tuck it over the pistol and do the same on windy days with button up shirts. Sure, it will complicate the draw but it ensures it won't be seen. Better than not carrying.
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Try drawing while sitting down or in your car and you'll see pocket carry isn't always that fast.
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Wear a longer jacket, and one that isn't fitted at the waist. I have a carhartt that has elastic at the bottom (waist level) and I can't wear it anymore. Get one that ends below waist. Also shirts, I rarely wore tshirts anyway but had a helluva time with them getting caught on the grip. Untucked button up shirts work best for me, with IWB about 4-430... I've used the tucksble option a couple times, but had trouble with the tuck coming out too often and quit trying. At the end of the day, the public is clueless and doesn't look or care if you print or even show once in awhile. Glad your wife was looking out, thumbs up to her!
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Others have already mentioned pocket carry so I'll suggest trying a belly band holster. Beware though, this holster has poor trigger guard protection on it. Works best if your pistol has external safety.
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