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Old 07-07-2016, 10:50 PM
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Heading to Knotts Berry Farm this weekend and hoping to be able to carry. The only threads I found were a few years old, does anyone know current status for non LE? There was also mention of lockers, are these still a viable option? Thanks in advance!
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Recent reports have said they wand.
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They wand. Men women and children.

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Some times they wand some times they do not. Depending on what day you go. It's hit or miss. We go a lot. Just keep an eye out when you drive by the front gate. You can see them from the street
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Thank you all. I will get a car safe I guess just in case.
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I was there on June 3 and was wanded. Same with my kids. Anticipating this, I locked it in the car.
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I was there a couple weeks ago. Everyone gets wanded.
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Old 07-09-2016, 1:25 PM
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random days for wanding... LEO only concealed carry. (or use of safe/locker if going on rides) please do NOT carry on a ride.
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I can confirm that at least this Saturday, they were not wanding. Thanks everyone.
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Old 07-13-2016, 5:25 AM
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They wand most of the time but not always. Definitely more than Disneyland, I have yet to be wanded at Disneyland. I have annual passes for both parks.
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They wand.. LEO you can carry.
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I go all the time (Least twice a month, no wanding ever.)
Not to say they do not at all though.
Maybe they profile or step it up after high profile attacks in the media.

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P.S. Evaluate your holsters ability to handle a roller coaster. Many seem to think over it.
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I got mine through wanding in a 5.11 push pack. gun was in zippered pistol compartment. when the security came up to want I just opened the pack to show contents. this blocked the pistol zippered compartment. Or as previous post, wear a big metal belt buckle lol
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Just talked to their security manager. CCW NOT VALID there. LEO are the only people permitted to carry on the property.
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Just talked to their security manager. CCW NOT VALID there. LEO are the only people permitted to carry on the property.
That was mentioned above if you take a look. Calling is something we generally don't want to do. You can always plead ignorance if you don't know.
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Just talked to their security manager. CCW NOT VALID there. LEO are the only people permitted to carry on the property.
CCW is valid there. A private entity can't invalidate your permit at their whim.

They may not want you there while carrying, but that is a different matter.
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CCW is valid there. A private entity can't invalidate your permit at their whim.

They may not want you there while carrying, but that is a different matter.
Agreed it is valid just like any other store that has a "no gun" sign. It's holds no legal standing. They can ask you to leave and then trespass you if it comes to that.
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I carry there. The security there told me just to keep it concealed and make sure it is secured on rides. I go on all the rides and my gun stayed hidden and secured in the holster.

They love having armed cops on their premises.
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I was just at Knott's last Saturday. Before going, I wanted to find out about their CCW policy. I called and they allow CCW but they still wand at the entrance; just show them your CCW.
I get to the entrance. I prepare my license. I show the guy my license and it seemed like he didn't know what it was and just turned me around to wand me. The wand did not pick up the M&P Shield at appendix and the spare mag in my pocket.
The girl in front of me only had tight jean shorts on and that set off the wand. Nothing beeped for me.
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I was just at Knott's last Saturday. Before going, I wanted to find out about their CCW policy. I called and they allow CCW but they still wand at the entrance; just show them your CCW.
I get to the entrance. I prepare my license. I show the guy my license and it seemed like he didn't know what it was and just turned me around to wand me. The wand did not pick up the M&P Shield at appendix and the spare mag in my pocket.
The girl in front of me only had tight jean shorts on and that set off the wand. Nothing beeped for me.
a pretty girl in tight shorts would set off many a wand.
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Update - Knott's installed full walk through metal detectors starting today.
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Just asked one of the heads of security and got a hard "NO CCW Allowed!!!"
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I just went there today. They have full walk-through metal detectors and wands. No firearms even for off-duty LEO. They have lockers for them, but wouldn't allow my CCW piece to park in one. I had to go put my handgun in the car. The guy at the gate said they changed their policy 3 weeks ago. I said that was too bad they were taking the Disney route and he replied "the dark ages are upon us". Appreciated his candor.
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I think CA will undermine CCW’s by allowing more and more private companies to deny you to carry. I think when private individuals or business are able to restrict what is a legally allowed activity except in certain extreme cases its not a good thing.
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I think CA will undermine CCW’s by allowing more and more private companies to deny you to carry. I think when private individuals or business are able to restrict what is a legally allowed activity except in certain extreme cases its not a good thing.
Here's the thing: They are on private property. It is not a function of CA, it is the business themselves. It is basically the same as me saying "you may not enter my home if you have a weapon on you." I am able to restrict your entry because it is my property. If I choose to have a metal detector at my front door, I may do so, because it is not public property. As much as I hate CA government, it is not their fault in this case. It is the business owner that is afraid.
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I only disagree with the prior post in that they cater to the public - all public. It is not a private home. These public places should be brought back into line when it comes to denying civil rights to us. I question their right to deny them. IN my home I can deny access to anyone for any reason whether political, racial, gender bias, sexual orientation, etc. No so with a business. It is very difficult for me to accept that some want sanctuary cities (that protect people who have violated the law), and yet our law abiding gun rights are infringed upon. These actions don't sit well with me.

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The only thing we can and should do to these businesses is a loud and vocal boycott letting them know how we feel. Cops used to love going there and thought they loved us too. Hopefully they understand cops and lawful ccw are not the problem.
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I could imagine the amount of dropped guns on roller coaster rides 😜😜😜
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I could imagine the amount of dropped guns on roller coaster rides 😜😜😜
That was the image I had too, but it's a matter of holster selection. I've been on the Xcelerator many times with no issues.
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Here's the thing: They are on private property. It is not a function of CA, it is the business themselves. It is basically the same as me saying "you may not enter my home if you have a weapon on you." I am able to restrict your entry because it is my property. If I choose to have a metal detector at my front door, I may do so, because it is not public property. As much as I hate CA government, it is not their fault in this case. It is the business owner that is afraid.
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I only disagree with the prior post in that they cater to the public - all public. It is not a private home. These public places should be brought back into line when it comes to denying civil rights to us. I question their right to deny them. IN my home I can deny access to anyone for any reason whether political, racial, gender bias, sexual orientation, etc. No so with a business. It is very difficult for me to accept that some want sanctuary cities (that protect people who have violated the law), and yet our law abiding gun rights are infringed upon. These actions don't sit well with me.
It wouldn't surprise me if CA eventually gave "no weapons signs" the force of law. That is, any business or venue could post a "no weapons sign" which would make the applicable section enforceable/citable. I'm not saying we should be happy with the current situation, but it could be worse.
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I was there today. The bag check isn't thorough but it was more so that DL's last time we went there. As mentioned, walk-thru metal detectors, wanding and these signs:




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It wouldn't surprise me if CA eventually gave "no weapons signs" the force of law. That is, any business or venue could post a "no weapons sign" which would make the applicable section enforceable/citable. I'm not saying we should be happy with the current situation, but it could be worse.
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This has been discussed at length in the LEO threads as well as here. Disneyland does not allow anyone, including off duty LEO's, to carry in the park. Some LTC's and LEO's still do, although Disney has beefed up their screening recently.

I don't have a LTC, but I am a sworn LEO and carry pretty much anywhere. Still, if any business on private property has a "no firearms" policy, I will either abide by it or go elsewhere. If someone thinks their 2A rights overrule private property rights, they are wrong and they are hypocrites to rationalize that their gun rights overrule the private property rights of others.
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It wouldn't surprise me if CA eventually gave "no weapons signs" the force of law. That is, any business or venue could post a "no weapons sign" which would make the applicable section enforceable/citable. I'm not saying we should be happy with the current situation, but it could be worse.
If it did, it would be in no small part due to the behavior I posted above.
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all we can do is show our displeasure by NOT going to such places.
and NOT buying any of there products.
with a cet letter to the corp explaining why we are doing this along with encouraging others to do the same.

some years back the ceo of a pants company (used to be a American made company), stated publicly it was a insult to his company for his products to be seen on truck drivers.
well i have obliged him, i do not buy any of that company's products.
sure may not hurt there bottom line... much.

but if enough people get on this, it does have a effect on corp'$ policey$.


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I think CA will undermine CCW’s by allowing more and more private companies to deny you to carry. I think when private individuals or business are able to restrict what is a legally allowed activity except in certain extreme cases its not a good thing.
Then don't go. The companies will lose business over time and money. Thats the reality of it. I haven't been to Knotts in several years but they have maybe two rides I would go on anyway. There is just to many people there even during the work week.

Other states I have lived in the amusement parks are ghost towns during the week and you have maybe a minute wait for rides. Thats what I expect and will not except waiting 2-3 hours for a 30 second Space Mountain ride at Disneyland. I have better things to do then waste that time in a line. Should I even mentions the prices at these amusement parks? Last time I went to Disneyland it was $36 with my discount to get in. Now its almost $100? GTFO. You can get NFC or AFC wild card playoff tickets for that price or an NBA Finals game 1 or 2 or even seats at a WBC or IBF middleweight title fight. All of those are ranked much higher than going to a park. Trust me when I say your kids would be happier getting autographs and watching your Seattle Seahawks or New York Giants in the playoffs or seeing Steph Curry or KD or Lebron at the Finals.

I hate being so negative in all my posts but I will absolutely not give into the California BS in regards to anything anymore. Life is just too short.

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On the other end of the spectrum TN just passed HR508 that basically says if you restrict CCW on your property, then you assume liability for their safety and are liable for attorney fees too.

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bill...lNumber=HB0508
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