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Old 03-09-2016, 10:04 AM
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Question for you OC folks that have been approved...have any of your permits come with restrictions?

For example, if your GC statement was that you're a realtor and you show homes or host open houses by yourself, or maybe in rural/isolated/not-so-good areas, does your permit have a restriction saying it's only valid when you're engaging in that particular activity?
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In all the discussions I've seen here on the forum, I don't recall anyone mentioning that their OC permit had restrictions.
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In all of the threads I have not heard of any restrictions. Just to the firearm(s) you register with your permit. They also explained to me when I picked up my permit that not all areas are legal to carry, like courthouse, schools, etc. In other words, you have to know and follow the laws.
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Thanks for the responses. I hadn't heard of/seen any restrictions mentioned either. Just wanted to confirm.
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Thanks for starting this thread.
I will begin the renewal process in June, 2016.
Any good thoughts on managing my income property?
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Is there a resource for people who are going to submit a good cause statement, but want a second, third, and fourth opinion before they do?

I've written a draft of mine for my appointment in May, but I don't want to post them publicly until they are approved.
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I'm fairly certain if you PM a few of the old guard here they would be willing to review. I did that and it was a big help.
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I'm fairly certain if you PM a few of the old guard here they would be willing to review. I did that and it was a big help.

Thank you for the suggestion. If you don't mind, I PM'd you for a little more detail.


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Hello everyone, I will be applying for my ccw soon.

Thank you to all who have shared their GC letters and further input. I look forward to hearing more from you guys. Keep it up Orange County.


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Has anyone successfully used the "camping and hiking in areas confirmed to have predators" as a GC statement?
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Has anyone successfully used the "camping and hiking in areas confirmed to have predators" as a GC statement?
An OCSD Deputy told me that camping and hiking in areas with limited cell service or that may have extended response times for LE would be considered a a good example to use. I would not make that your only reason on your statement though.
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I used camping in areas with no cell signal but that was not my only reason
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This may be somewhat "good cause" related, but I'm curious as to whether Question 5 on the application form (regarding being a party to a lawsuit in the preceding five years) presents any sort of issue. Has anyone answered "yes," and what was your experience like?

On my original CCW license I listed the court case # and a single sentence on what it was about. No further questions we asked about it.
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/* hijack

OMG.. where are all of the goofy guys saying, "you guys shouldn't be discussing this and giving THEM any ideas" I'll have to remember this thread the next time I read a thread with that nonsense comment posted.

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OMG.. where are all of the goofy guys saying, "you guys shouldn't be discussing this and giving THEM any ideas" I'll have to remember this thread the next time I read a thread with that nonsense comment posted.

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Sounds more like the "other" forum.

To those applying: The bar for Good Cause is not very high about "self-defense."
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An OCSD Deputy told me that camping and hiking in areas with limited cell service or that may have extended response times for LE would be considered a a good example to use. I would not make that your only reason on your statement though.

That was one of my three reasons.
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We have a coyote problem here in Irvine. I hear them every night, and they have attacked people and their pets. I can even print out the news articles. Do you think wild animal attacks will serve as good cause?
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Has anyone successfully used the "camping and hiking in areas confirmed to have predators" as a GC statement?
My GC was based on the threat of lions in remote areas while mountain biking. It was accepted, and I got the acceptance email on the very day I was driving out of the PRK forever.

Here in WA, all I had to do was show up at the sheriff's office, fill out a form, give fingerprints, and pay something like 50 bucks. The CCW came in the mail 2 weeks later, is good for 5 years, and doesn't limit me to any particular handguns. Yay.

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Here in WA, all I had to do was show up at the sheriff's office, fill out a form, give fingerprints, and pay something like 50 bucks. The CCW came in the mail 2 weeks later, is good for 5 years, and doesn't limit me to any particular handguns. Yay.

Five years makes a lot more sense then the OCSD 2 year permit.
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Five years makes a lot more sense then the OCSD 2 year permit.
You need short permits when you constantly have to check whether the peasants still have acceptable "good cause". That's why OC's are only 2 years. But in free America, where good cause is lawful self-defense, there's no reason not to save time and expense by extending the length of the permits. And the next logical step, of course, is constitutional carry.
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Five years makes a lot more sense then the OCSD 2 year permit.
Yeah, 2 year renewals makes for a pricey permit to exercise a "right".
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Five years makes a lot more sense then the OCSD 2 year permit.
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You need short permits when you constantly have to check whether the peasants still have acceptable "good cause". That's why OC's are only 2 years. But in free America, where good cause is lawful self-defense, there's no reason not to save time and expense by extending the length of the permits. And the next logical step, of course, is constitutional carry.
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Yeah, 2 year renewals makes for a pricey permit to exercise a "right".
It has nothing to do with OCSD. State law says "not to exceed" 2 years.
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Yes, WA state does not require any training either. My son-in-law did a radio interview about training CCW permitees:
http://mynorthwest.com/874/2930723/F...k-of-education

He is also authorized for OCSD - it's all online with the range segment that is local to you.

Oh, and GCS - you just need to be able to articulate why you want to carry a firearm - it doesn't need to be fancy, just state your piece. Get some help here for review if you're unsure.

Accessing remote areas was one of the three reasons on my statement as well.

I'm beginning to think that if you can't articulate a good reason to carry they don't want to issue a permit. Simple as that. <shrug>
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How long do I have to live in OC to apply for CCW permit? I am currently in the bay, but might move to OC next year. Wondering ehen I can start the application
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How long do I have to live in OC to apply for CCW permit? I am currently in the bay, but might move to OC next year. Wondering ehen I can start the application

They require three months worth of utility bills.
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Forgot about utility bills. What Doheny said above.
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Five years makes a lot more sense then the OCSD 2 year permit.

Two years is a requirement of the Penal Code. It's not an OCSD specific thing.
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Bumping this...new applicants are having trouble finding it.
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Hi All,

I'm new to this forum. I made my CCW initial (non-renewal) appointment with the OCSD on June 20 and have a November 4 appointment date. I've put together my GC statement and back-up documentation. Should I also take the training course and do the Live-Scan before my appointment?

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I'm new to this forum. I made my CCW initial (non-renewal) appointment with the OCSD on June 20 and have a November 4 appointment date. I've put together my GC statement and back-up documentation. Should I also take the training course and do the Live-Scan before my appointment?

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No. Wait until you get a warm and fuzzy after the interview.
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Yeah, I would wait. It's tempting to get the livescan going earlier since they are taking so long. It might be worth a call and ask - they may give you linking info for your scan vendor to make sure they get it and match it to your application.
They are taking about 3 months right now.

Training needs to be within a window, 90 days I think, so I would wait for a preliminary approval since it can be completed relatively quickly.
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Yeah, I would wait. It's tempting to get the livescan going earlier since they are taking so long. It might be worth a call and ask - they may give you linking info for your scan vendor to make sure they get it and match it to your application.
They are taking about 3 months right now.

Training needs to be within a window, 90 days I think, so I would wait for a preliminary approval since it can be completed relatively quickly.
Thanks for the advice Browneye. I will wait to do both and just keep polishing that GC statement!
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I'm new to this forum. I made my CCW initial (non-renewal) appointment with the OCSD on June 20 and have a November 4 appointment date. I've put together my GC statement and back-up documentation. Should I also take the training course and do the Live-Scan before my appointment?

Thanks.
Well you have time, I would take advantage of the FREE Pre-CCW class at Artemis Defense Institute. It is free, and they don't push you to take their CCW class, but you will get good information on the current process, thoughts by the reviewers and what has worked, in terms of good cause.

Doesn't hurt that the owner is a former assistant district attorney for San Francisco and has expertise on California gun laws. Makes for a very informative couple of hours.
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Well you have time, I would take advantage of the FREE Pre-CCW class at Artemis Defense Institute. It is free, and they don't push you to take their CCW class, but you will get good information on the current process, thoughts by the reviewers and what has worked, in terms of good cause.

Doesn't hurt that the owner is a former assistant district attorney for San Francisco and has expertise on California gun laws. Makes for a very informative couple of hours.
Excellent. I'll check them out. I need all the input I can get!
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I'm new to this forum. I made my CCW initial (non-renewal) appointment with the OCSD on June 20 and have a November 4 appointment date. I've put together my GC statement and back-up documentation. Should I also take the training course and do the Live-Scan before my appointment?

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I would do the live scan if you had extra money to blow in case your not approved. My Live scan took about 70-80 days so I would complete it about 60 days prior to the interview, the forms are on their website. I would even do the the training also.
There is no wrong or right, i prefer to get things done when I can. If your not approved for some reason you wasted some money, but if approved it goes much quicker.
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Would someone be so kind as to PM me and help me with my good cause for my renewal?

Thanks in advance.
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Would someone be so kind as to PM me and help me with my good cause for my renewal?

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There are some good examples in this thread and at least one link to another county discussion on good cause which should help you formulate what your is or could be.

Once you get a draft going you could PM some of the old timers/high-post-count members and ask them to review. I sent to several when I was working on mine and they were a huge help.

I would be happy to read through and give my two-cents with the caveat that I'm no expert. I do know how to write however, and I understand what they're looking for. It's just that there are no guarantees - it's up to the Lt. Sheriff. And each applicant's story and situation is their own.
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PM sent - as noted feel free to call and discuss or send a draft for review, here to help.
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Question for you OC folks that have been approved...have any of your permits come with restrictions?

For example, if your GC statement was that you're a realtor and you show homes or host open houses by yourself, or maybe in rural/isolated/not-so-good areas, does your permit have a restriction saying it's only valid when you're engaging in that particular activity?
My GC was oriented around offroading in the desert and national forest, uninhibited areas, no reasonable expectation of LEO response or even ability to contact, there are no restrictions on my permit.
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"My GC was oriented around offroading in the desert ..."

MotoFahren, that sounds a lot like mine. Did you get renewed? I submitted six weeks ago and have heard nothing back.
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