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Old 05-01-2017, 10:47 PM
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I have an interview coming up and I'm preparing my paperwork for San Bernardino County. I've been married for over 30 plus years but had a previous divorce. They want an original marriage certificate. I have the current one but I have no idea where the original is located for the previous marriage and have no idea where the ex is located. Could I just provide the current marriage or do I have to produce the previous marriage's original certificate? Help!
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I have an interview coming up and I'm preparing my paperwork for San Bernardino County. I've been married for over 30 plus years but had a previous divorce. They want an original marriage certificate. I have the current one but I have no idea where the original is located for the previous marriage and have no idea where the ex is located. Could I just provide the current marriage or do I have to produce the previous marriage's original certificate? Help!
My coworker had to show her previous marriage. Make a few phone calls to the county you were married before.

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If you're married I think they want the current marriage certificate.
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Have to provide marriage certificates??? WOW! I guess I could understand asking for your current spouse's name but proving previous marriages is dumb.

Glad I'm GTFO of this place.
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Website info says 'all'.
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If you're married I think they want the current marriage certificate.
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I have an interview coming up and I'm preparing my paperwork for San Bernardino County. I've been married for over 30 plus years but had a previous divorce. They want an original marriage certificate. I have the current one but I have no idea where the original is located for the previous marriage and have no idea where the ex is located. Could I just provide the current marriage or do I have to produce the previous marriage's original certificate? Help!
Call Sarah Brock and explain the situation. She should be able to give you a option to handle this.

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Have to provide marriage certificates??? WOW! I guess I could understand asking for your current spouse's name but proving previous marriages is dumb.

Glad I'm GTFO of this place.

It was my understanding this was only needed if guns on your CCW were in both spouses names but I may be wrong.
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Call Sara Brock and explain the situation. She should be able to give you a option to handle this.
Thank you. I'll call Sara Brock and get the scoop. I report back.
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I interviewed with Ventura, and I was not asked to provide marriage certificates. I was, however, asked about my relationship with my ex-wife. Pretty sure the detective wanted to ensure I was not planning on harming her
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Hmmm, OC did not ask me about any of my ex-wives.
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I interviewed with Ventura, and I was not asked to provide marriage certificates. I was, however, asked about my relationship with my ex-wife. Pretty sure the detective wanted to ensure I was not planning on harming her
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Hmmm, OC did not ask me about any of my ex-wives.
It may be a SBSD requirement. I thought it only pertained to firearms that may be in spouse names on your CCW.
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Thank you. I'll call Sara Brock and get the scoop. I report back.
What was the outcome?
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County clerks have records of all marriages.
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Have to provide marriage certificates??? WOW! I guess I could understand asking for your current spouse's name but proving previous marriages is dumb.

Glad I'm GTFO of this place.
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Technically they can't ask for anything other than the application, but telling them so wouldn't get you very far.



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26175 (g) An applicant shall not be required to complete any additional

application or form for a license, or to provide any information

other than that necessary to complete the standard application form

described in subdivision (a), except to clarify or interpret

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On the SBSD application, it clearly states "all Marriage certificates". Call the SBSP and they confirmed that all certificates are needed. I ended up heading to the LA County Recorders office and ordered a copy. I totally forgot the date, but you can do a search in their computers. Not a big deal i guess, but the traffic and the wait in line was a little trying- - very time consuming. I guess it's worth it if you want it bad enough. Good to go! Thanks all.
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WTF they need that for?!?!?!
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Technically they can't ask for anything other than the application, but telling them so wouldn't get you very far.
Agreed, this also was my understanding.

Perhaps someone should sue them into compliance.
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You are not going to get very far trying to stop them from asking for marriage licenses. They can justify it as research into your good moral character. They want proof of all marriages so they can find out how you treated your past spouse(s). It's public record anyway - you're just doing the legwork for them. Why bust their chops in providing documentation to your life events?
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You are not going to get very far trying to stop them from asking for marriage licenses. They can justify it as research into your good moral character. They want proof of all marriages so they can find out how you treated your past spouse(s). It's public record anyway - you're just doing the legwork for them. Why bust their chops in providing documentation to your life events?

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On the SBSD application, it clearly states "all Marriage certificates". Call the SBSP and they confirmed that all certificates are needed. I ended up heading to the LA County Recorders office and ordered a copy. I totally forgot the date, but you can do a search in their computers. Not a big deal i guess, but the traffic and the wait in line was a little trying- - very time consuming. I guess it's worth it if you want it bad enough. Good to go! Thanks all.
Yeah I ran into the same thing, first marriage lasted a year and was over 30 years ago.


Fortunately my current wife (of 20+ years) was applying at the same time. After giving me a hard time about not reading the instructions my wife pulled both my original Marriage License and Divorce decree out of her notebook.

I asked her where she got them. She smiled and said "What kind of person would marry someone without researching their previous marriages first."

Good thing she's a keeper.
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Yeah I ran into the same thing, first marriage lasted a year and was over 30 years ago.


Fortunately my current wife (of 20+ years) was applying at the same time. After giving me a hard time about not reading the instructions my wife pulled both my original Marriage License and Divorce decree out of her notebook.

I asked her where she got them. She smiled and said "What kind of person would marry someone without researching their previous marriages first."

Good thing she's a keeper.


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Odd. It has been about 2 years since I filled out my initial application but I don't remember them asking for my marriage license. Maybe they changed it? I don't recall having to look for my marriage license.
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It was my understanding this was only needed if guns on your CCW were in both spouses names but I may be wrong.
For males, but for females there's the name change issue.

They want to see all names that you are or have been known by and documentation for the legal name changes.
Theoretically it would be possible for Susan Thomas to have a criminal record that doesn't show under Susan Wilson if she changed back to Susan White between marriages.
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Odd. It has been about 2 years since I filled out my initial application but I don't remember them asking for my marriage license. Maybe they changed it? I don't recall having to look for my marriage license.
Same.
Mine was in my packet and it was one of several items that were pushed back across the counter without a glance.
Even though I provided color copies of all documents, she likewise did not want those and instead made basic B&W copies of the originals in the office.
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i would think a divorce, not a funeral would prove your good to go.


nowhere in my paperwork did they ever ask about any such paperwork.
been divorced for decades. no new wife. so i guess i do not have a dog in this hunt, but then in this county the Sheriff wants people to carry guns.

sad some depts just want to make things very hard on people. good luck jumping through there fire hoops.


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Odd. It has been about 2 years since I filled out my initial application but I don't remember them asking for my marriage license. Maybe they changed it? I don't recall having to look for my marriage license.
Never had to provide any marriage license or divorce papers either.
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For males, but for females there's the name change issue.

They want to see all names that you are or have been known by and documentation for the legal name changes.
Theoretically it would be possible for Susan Thomas to have a criminal record that doesn't show under Susan Wilson if she changed back to Susan White between marriages.
Really? Seems this line covers that: If Applicable, Maiden Name or Other Names(s) Used
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Really? Seems this line covers that: If Applicable, Maiden Name or Other Names(s) Used
The line is there for revelation, but they want legal proof of the name changes.

Like I said... didn't even look at mine, just asked how long we've been together.
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The line is there for revelation, but they want legal proof of the name changes.

Like I said... didn't even look at mine, just asked how long we've been together.
Never asked for mine and I never provided it. Birth name, previous married name and current (35+ years) name all on my paperwork.
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