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Old 02-23-2015, 3:38 PM
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Default $250 range scope for 308LR out to about 500-600 yards?

When I say budget, I mean around $250 to less. There aren't many options out there from what I've found other than Vortex Crossfire II or Primary Arms 4-14FFP. Looking for something that can reach out to about 500-600yard steel targets. There are a lot of posts regarding similar questions but I am not too familiar with the advantages and disadvantages of 30mm vs 40mm and other basic specs. Trying to find a few suggestions to research.
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Fixed 10x scope got me out to 1k yards.

Bushnell Elite 3200

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Old 02-23-2015, 4:07 PM
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Fixed 10x scope got me out to 1k yards.

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950...-reticle-matte
What is the advantage and disadvantage of a fixed vs something like the 4-14x or 6-24x?
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Less expensive.
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I have the Primary Arms 1-6x scope on both my wife's AR and my Mini-14. We are able to hit the steel (even the smaller swingers) at Angeles all the way to the 600 yard set. You might want to consider that option.
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I've run a BSA 4-14X44 FFP on several of my rifles and have been pretty impressed with it's durability, tracking and clarity. It currently resides on a 300 Win Mag Remington 700 and has about 200 rounds under it in that platform without failure. I've used it on a 308 Savage out to 1000 yards for several range trips without issue. It passed all my initial tracking tests, but being an imported scope I tend to use the reticle for holdovers rather than dialing for elevation at a distance. The extended mil hash reticle works very well for holds on a 308 out to 900-1000 yards.

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I have been using the SWFA 10x, 30mm scope. Not to shabby for the price, $299.00 with rear focus and $399.00 for side focus.

Easy 800 yard shots, plenty of clicks in both elevation and windage.

It has very good reviews.
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primary arms 4-14x ffp -- $270
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What is the advantage and disadvantage of a fixed vs something like the 4-14x or 6-24x?
Fixed scopes are generally far better than the variable equal. They are stronger, more reliable, cheaper, same glass quality will look better through a fixed, they have more adjustment range ect.

The SWFA fixed scopes are fantastic and easily better than most other options below about $800. Save a few extra dollars and get one.
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the swfa fixed 10x is enough better to pop for the extra 50 bucks.
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Don't expect a whole lot out of a $250 scope.
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The Primary Arms 4-14 FFP is a good scope. I could ring steel at 500 yards on an AR10 I built no problem. I then put a USO 3.8-22 on it and moved the PA to an 18" AR that I built and could hit the same 500 no problem. I have now moved it to a 1022 and works great on it. Get the PA and when you move up to a better scope the PA will work on just about anything. The glass is not bad for a 270 dollar scope you will not be disappointed.
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Once you progress past a decent set of irons, a good rule of thumb is that your optic(s) should cost about as much as your rifle, sometimes quite a bit more. I've bought a lot of cheap optics, and it ends up costing more in the long run. I've had a lot of scopes that have end up broken, given away, sitting unmounted, or if I am lucky, sold off for salvage.

If you go with something cheap, you can consider one of the "trendy" or "fashionable" scopes as you'll be able to re-sell them a bit easier. Vortex tends to be a good "budget/value" scope as they have transferable warranties so folks have less apprehension about buying them used.
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Barska black point 6-24x40... Runs about $170 delivered...
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With that type of budget, the only option I would consider is one of the SWFA fixed power scopes, specifically the mil/mil 10x or 12x rear focus.

If you hold out for a sale, you can get much meet your budget goals and get a set of rings out of them too.

I honestly haven't used a better scope under $300, they track as well as scopes which cost substantially more and is correctly setup as a target scope.
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OP, I plan to get a Primary Arms 4-14x 44 FFP for my Rem 700. When I'm ready to upgrade, that's going on another build or the girlfriend's rifle (whichever comes first).

It also comes with a 3 year warranty, so I'm not too worried if it fails.
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When I say budget, I mean around $250 to less. There aren't many options out there from what I've found other than Vortex Crossfire II or Primary Arms 4-14FFP. Looking for something that can reach out to about 500-600yard steel targets. There are a lot of posts regarding similar questions but I am not too familiar with the advantages and disadvantages of 30mm vs 40mm and other basic specs. Trying to find a few suggestions to research.
I highly recommend you slowly familiarize yourself with some of the nomenclature surrounding optics so you can make an informed decision.

Objective size, main tube size, exit pupil, field of view, eye relief, the amount of travel/adjustment available on the elevation and windage turret. Reticle design and turret type... MOA/MRAD/BDC... Some of these things can be application driven and some may be personal preference.

With that said, sometimes things on paper can look similar or apples to apples, yet their may be huge differences between two similar scopes.

What is generally important may be things not always found on a spec sheet. Things like overall quality, durability, tracking performance, glass quality....

When it comes to target scopes, tracking performance is a big one, and glass/optical performance isn't far behind.

Just know for a $250 or similar budget, you may come across scopes that look like they have it all, but they don't.
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the swfa fixed 10x is enough better to pop for the extra 50 bucks.
This, for the price you pay, I must say it is probably the best scope in that price range!
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Old 02-24-2015, 7:39 PM
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Thanks to every who replied I really appreciate. I currently don't have anything other than reddot so I want something to familiarize myself with long distance shooting. I have a range fairly close that goes out to 1000 yards w/ steel. From the suggestions and reviews it looks like the SWFA fixed is in the same line of what I was looking for. I will do some more reading and figure it out. Thanks once again you guys are awesome.
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You can't go wrong with the SWFA.

I do have the Crossfire II 6-18x44 on my AR. I shot it out to 500 on steel this weekend. Worked prefectly well for my needs. My Viper is a lot nicer, but the Crossfire isn't horrible.

The rectical on the PA is horrible.
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^^^ I bought this for my ar10 and works like a champ
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Just shot the Primary Arms 4-14 on an 18" AR10 build and I can't say enough good things about it. I would be happy with it at twice the price.


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I am a fan of the burris fullfield II with the ballistic plex reticle.
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I have a BSA 6x18 40 mm that I hit 600 yards with. Low cost, I paid $54 at Natchez. It's pretty good for the money spent.
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