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Old 10-02-2014, 12:42 PM
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Default "Budget" Holographic sights?

I just bought an AR and I wanted a holographic sight. However I didnt want to spend like $500+ on an Eotech/Trijicon. I was hoping to spend a5 most $150. Anyone know of some good budget holo sights?
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IMO you can't beat Primary Arms for the cost and they are easily worth 300-400 selling for $100.

They are incredibly durable, clear and customer service that is top notch.

Check them out.... Seriously... Many sizes and design's.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm

I honestly think the Primary Arms Micro Red Dot is nearly as good as the Aimpoint. I own many and they have gone through thousands of rounds and competition shooting and they are still going strong.

I'll buy you lunch if you can find anyone with a LEGITIMATE beef with Primary arms. They are fantastic.


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I impulse bought a Sightmark Ultrashot to put on my 15-22, and I've been pleasantly surprised by it.

It's got 4 different reticles to choose from (Have to re-Zero if you change it, so pick the one you like) and for $70 it's a nifty little EoTech knockoff.

I can't speak to how it will handle recoil as mine's on a .22, but I've heard they do okay.

What's it going on?
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Have you considered a used Aimpoint PRO or Eotech 512? They go for pretty cheap if you check the equipment exchange on AR15.com
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EOtech makes the only holographic sight. I believe Bushnell sold one a while back, tho.

I secon SoCalgunny on the PA sights. PA is putting out some great sights and they have awesome CS. Their new line of red dots even match AimPoint's battery life.
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I put the Bushnell TRS-25 on my wife's rifle. It seems a great value for a red dot for $100.
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For a true Holographic sight, you'll have to stick with either a Bushnell Holosight, or Eotech. I believe the rest are all reflex sights. Primary arms makes great reflex sights, if you're interested.
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If you mean specifically the Eotech style of open sights and not the 1x tube red dot sights, then you don't have many options. Like Dannicus mentioned, Eotech is the only mfg of true holographic sights. The others, like the Burris Fastfire or Sightmark Ultrashot are reflex sights. Eotech's holographic setup deals with parallax better than reflex setups. So if you want something like an Eotech, you'll have to pay up for one.

However, if you also mean a red dot, then there are more viable budget options. Both the Primary Arms & Bushnell offerings come close to matching Aimpoint quality (close, but not quite) but at only $90 vs $400+ for Aimpoints.
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The Primary MD-ADS offers up to 50,000 hours of battery life off of one 2032 cell. That's 5 years. They just released the optic last night. Mine should arrive Monday. For $169, uses T1 Micro mounts, at the stated co-witness for that sight. PA has a fixed AR-15 riser for $19. If you want QD, they have their in-house brand for $29 (only 1/3 co-witness available in QD), though I usually go for the ADM mounts for about $70.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...s_p/md-ads.htm

If you only want a 1-year battery life, (10,000 hours), and don't mind 1/3 co-witness or buying a different mount, try this one:

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_.../pa-aasdg3.htm
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EOtech makes the only holographic sight. I believe Bushnell sold one a while back, tho.

I secon SoCalgunny on the PA sights. PA is putting out some great sights and they have awesome CS. Their new line of red dots even match AimPoint's battery life.
thanks i was going to say i have not seen any budget holographic sights
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Check out Primary Army

Have 2 of their red dots. They are great for the price.

Currently in love with their 2.5x Scope
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I impulse bought a Sightmark Ultrashot to put on my 15-22, and I've been pleasantly surprised by it.

It's got 4 different reticles to choose from (Have to re-Zero if you change it, so pick the one you like) and for $70 it's a nifty little EoTech knockoff.

I can't speak to how it will handle recoil as mine's on a .22, but I've heard they do okay.

What's it going on?
It's going on a .223 AR-15
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Thanks for all the replies. It looks like Primary Arms it is.
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Just to clear something up, there is no such thing as a budget holographic sight... budget red dot sight yes, holographic no.
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Just to clear something up, there is no such thing as a budget holographic sight... budget red dot sight yes, holographic no.
Agreed. The only "budget" holographic sight I know of is no longer manufactured:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/326...le-mount-matte

It's on par with EOTech. Sadly, it has not been made for a long time.

As far as a good, high-quality/decently-priced red dot... what about the Bushnell TRS-25?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/593...le-mount-matte

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I'll buy you lunch if you can find anyone with a LEGITIMATE beef with Primary arms.
I love primary arms, and I think their stuff is some of the best available for the money, but you would lose that bet.
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The Primary MD-ADS offers up to 50,000 hours of battery life off of one 2032 cell. That's 5 years. They just released the optic last night. Mine should arrive Monday. For $169, uses T1 Micro mounts, at the stated co-witness for that sight. PA has a fixed AR-15 riser for $19. If you want QD, they have their in-house brand for $29 (only 1/3 co-witness available in QD), though I usually go for the ADM mounts for about $70.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...s_p/md-ads.htm

If you only want a 1-year battery life, (10,000 hours), and don't mind 1/3 co-witness or buying a different mount, try this one:

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_.../pa-aasdg3.htm

MD-ADS = http://www.primaryarms.com/Holosun_P...p/hs403g.htm"] right? Oh..nevermind I see there is a whole thread about that.


is it 25mm or 30mm or 20mm? I never see that in PA descriptions

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The only "budget" holographic sight I know of is no longer manufactured:



http://www.midwayusa.com/product/326...le-mount-matte

It's on par with EOTech.
That's because it IS an EOTech, just rebranded and sold at a discount.
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That's because it IS an EOTech, just rebranded and sold at a discount.
No, they are different. They are both made by EOTech. That is true. But, they are different. The Bushnell Holosight and the EOTech share many of the same basic components, but there are differences, however, between the basic Bushnell (similar to the EOTech 502) and the EOTech 510-series of holographic sights.

The EOTech 510-series (and later) has an aluminum hood. Plus, they also have a much more resilient waterproof sealing for the electronic components and the optics.

That's why the Bushnell Holosight is a "budget" holographic sight. --1911ShooterPhil
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I impulse bought a Sightmark Ultrashot to put on my 15-22, and I've been pleasantly surprised by it.

It's got 4 different reticles to choose from (Have to re-Zero if you change it, so pick the one you like) and for $70 it's a nifty little EoTech knockoff.

I can't speak to how it will handle recoil as mine's on a .22, but I've heard they do okay.

What's it going on?
I traded for 3 of the sm14000 ultra shots and sold two to calgunners. I've used mine on an ak with no problems. I
If you want something that LOOKS like an eotech without spending the money, they are a good in my experience. Haven't gotten any complaints about the ones I've sold either. They have a big window so are fast to pick up. If you want a micro dot, go PA though. If you want an EOCLONE for the range, they are a valid option.
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I traded for 3 of the sm14000 ultra shots and sold two to calgunners. I've used mine on an ak with no problems. I
If you want something that LOOKS like an eotech without spending the money, they are a good in my experience. Haven't gotten any complaints about the ones I've sold either. They have a big window so are fast to pick up. If you want a micro dot, go PA though. If you want an EOCLONE for the range, they are a valid option.
I like the looks of the sightmark although there seems to be 5 or 6 different versions.

Some reviews say they are not brite enough to see in sun light.

The other complaint is poor battery life. Some use cr2032 and others use multiple smaller batteries.

I'll look specifically at the 14000

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I impulse bought a Sightmark Ultrashot to put on my 15-22, and I've been pleasantly surprised by it.

It's got 4 different reticles to choose from (Have to re-Zero if you change it, so pick the one you like) and for $70 it's a nifty little EoTech knockoff.

I can't speak to how it will handle recoil as mine's on a .22, but I've heard they do okay.

What's it going on?
Those are LED-based WannabEOTechs. Essentially a red dot.
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Considering EOTech has the patent on holographic weapon sights, don't look for a clone one to emerge that's not LED based.
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No, they are different. They are both made by EOTech. That is true. But, they are different. The Bushnell Holosight and the EOTech share many of the same basic components, but there are differences, however, between the basic Bushnell (similar to the EOTech 502) and the EOTech 510-series of holographic sights.

The EOTech 510-series (and later) has an aluminum hood. Plus, they also have a much more resilient waterproof sealing for the electronic components and the optics.

That's why the Bushnell Holosight is a "budget" holographic sight. --1911ShooterPhil
So I didn't say anything that was incorrect, but I'm still wrong? Thanks for clarifying.

The point I was trying to make is that only EOTech makes holographic sights. The only one that's branded differently is still manufactured by EOTech.
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I remember those old bushnell holosights... from what i remember, they indeed use the same holographic technology from L3... but plastic housing and not nearly as robust in weather sealing as Eotech.

I don't think i've ever heard of any other company that uses holographic technology for weapon sights.
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