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Old 05-16-2019, 11:36 AM
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Default Favorite 30-30 load with cast or jacketed bullets.

I will be loading up some 30-30 here in the next week. I have a Lyman 311410 mold with load data. Only paid $20.00 for the mold, so will see how it does. Couldnt pass it up for $20.









I have IMR-3031 powder to load with these cast bullets. They will be powder coated and sized to .311 for a Glenfield 30A with Microgroove barrel (same as Marlin 336). I have read on Castboolits site that it should be sized to .310 to .311 for Microgroove barrels.

This Lyman 311410 mold should drop a 130 grain bullet.

Anyone else have any favorite plinking or hunting loads?


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Old 05-16-2019, 12:02 PM
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For jacketed: 170gr Hornady, 34.0gr Win 748, CCI primer and Winchester cases.
150gr Rem Core-Lok. Everything else the same.
150gr Barnes TSX: 32.0gr Win 748. Same primer and cases.^^
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25 gr of IMR 3031.

That's my favorite and most accurate load in my 1954 Marlin 336RC. It has a microgroove barrel. I gas check and size a 150 gr bullet to .311".

I have never chronoed it but with Skinner peep sights I can reliably hit a clay pigeon out to 80-90 yards consistently.

The accuracy is still there at longer distances but my old eyes are failing.

I have moved to optics on some of my rifles but my lever guns still have irons.

Best of luck.


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Old 05-16-2019, 2:02 PM
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25 gr of IMR 3031.

That's my favorite and most accurate load in my 1954 Marlin 336RC. It has a microgroove barrel. I gas check and size a 150 gr bullet to .311".

I have never chronoed it but with Skinner peep sights I can reliably hit a clay pigeon out to 80-90 yards consistently.

The accuracy is still there at longer distances but my old eyes are failing.

I have moved to optics on some of my rifles but my lever guns still have irons.

Best of luck.


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Thanks. I just picked up a Lyman 311466 152 grain mold and will get some gas checks.

Your using the load data marked in green...?






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Old 05-16-2019, 2:28 PM
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Also picked up a Lyman 311291 mold with gas checks that should drop a 170 grain bullet. Will try powder coating these too. The load data is highlighted in yellow...






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I only shoot mouse fart loads. 110gr cast and 5gr of 700x

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30 grains of H4895 and a 110 grain jacketed .30 caliber carbine bullet knocks down turkeys, pigs and chickens with fine accuracy and light recoil.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but is there any accurate .30-30 factory ammo available? I shot Remington less recoil .30-30 and was all over the paper at 50 yds and I'm not a bad shot. Then I read that .30-30's are ammunition picky - you have to find the right load for your barrel.

I have a Winchester 1971 NRA commemorative rifle (not carbine) and would like to shoot it.
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To McGuiver,

Yes, that is the load data that I am using. I also use the same charge with a 173 gr version of the famous 311041.

I wish you luck with the Lyman molds. I have never had a Lyman 30 cal mold that would cast large enough for me to size to .311".

I don't hunt any more. I just blast away at steel swingers or clay pigeons at various distances. So I started loading down ammo from max to make my range sessions more enjoyable.

But judging by the way this load swings a steel plate at 75 yards I would not hesitate to use it on deer, coyote, maybe even a hog.

This summer I want to dig out my chronograph. I have several loads that I am curious about.

To Bumslie,

I also like mouse fart loads in the 30-30. I have the 311041 in a plainbase version. I load it over 7 gr of Bullseye. Lot's of fun.


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Old 05-17-2019, 12:24 AM
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Yes, that is the load data that I am using. I also use the same charge with a 173 gr version of the famous 311041.

I wish you luck with the Lyman molds. I have never had a Lyman 30 cal mold that would cast large enough for me to size to .311".

I don't hunt any more. I just blast away at steel swingers or clay pigeons at various distances. So I started loading down ammo from max to make my range sessions more enjoyable.

But judging by the way this load swings a steel plate at 75 yards I would not hesitate to use it on deer, coyote, maybe even a hog.

This summer I want to dig out my chronograph. I have several loads that I am curious about.

To Bumslie,

I also like mouse fart loads in the 30-30. I have the 311041 in a plainbase version. I load it over 7 gr of Bullseye. Lot's of fun.


Steve in N CA


Thanks for the info...

If needs be I will cast some sample bullets, and then lap in the molds to be larger than .311...

Lots of hard work...

I used to machine and lap molds of all types. These would be the smallest I will work with. Not afraid to rework molds.

Im excited to get these together for my 30-30. I will be using a Magneto-speed chrono to test my loads.

Thanks everyone for all your special loads.




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My personal favorite, 5.6 grains Red Dot under an uncoated MBC 165 RNFP.

Shoots at 1050 fps, is quiet, has the energy of a .38 special. I might take it out for rabbits this year (out of state).
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but is there any accurate .30-30 factory ammo available? .
The Remington ammo in the green/yellow box shot well in my circa 1951 '94.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but is there any accurate .30-30 factory ammo available? I shot Remington less recoil .30-30 and was all over the paper at 50 yds and I'm not a bad shot. Then I read that .30-30's are ammunition picky - you have to find the right load for your barrel.

I have a Winchester 1971 NRA commemorative rifle (not carbine) and would like to shoot it.
I have a Marlin 30AS and the most accurate factory ammo in my rifle is the standard Federal 150 grain soft point. 1" or under at 100 yds.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but is there any accurate .30-30 factory ammo available? I shot Remington less recoil .30-30 and was all over the paper at 50 yds and I'm not a bad shot. Then I read that .30-30's are ammunition picky - you have to find the right load for your barrel.

I have a Winchester 1971 NRA commemorative rifle (not carbine) and would like to shoot it.
In factory ammo, my '70's Winchester 94 shot the Hornady 160 grain LeverEvolution ammo the best. It was very accurate and powerful.
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Perfect. thanks for these recommends....
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I've been using 17.5 gr of H4895 with SNS casting 158 gr coated RNFP, no GC. COAL of 2.485". Kinda dirty but they shoot well.
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Just popping in here to tag this thread, as I'm going to have to load a bunch of cast and coated 30-30 this summer, and will need the info.
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Spyder, you using that 30-30 for Ca hunting? If so, I'll send you a load via PM.


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Default Favorite 30-30 load with cast or jacketed bullets.

Got out to West End Gun Club today to shoot. The Lyman mold #311291 was dropping heavy @ 184.5 grains. This is supposed to be a 170 grain bullet mold. Diameter was about 0.312 from the mold. I powder costed with dark blue TGIC free powder and put a Gator gas check on it. After powder coating they were 0.314. Also had one pink powder coated bullet too. I sized them to 0.309 diameter and they seemed very accurate at 100 yards.

This is the powder coating I was using.

https://www.thepowdercoatstore.com/c...ee-powder-coat









The complete bullet, powder coat and gas check ended up at 190 grains. A little heavy for 30-30 but they hit the steel (AR-500) plates hard. I had the 190 grain up to about 1700-1800 FPS.

***Caution- This is my own load data near or at Max. Based off of 303 Savage cartridge similar load data.***

Loaded 25 up with 28.2 grains of IMR-3031.

Loaded another 25 with 21 grains of IMR-4227.

The 3031 load had more thump. The 4227 load seemed like a soft 30-30 load.

For everyday plinking, I like the IMR-4227 load.

Did a lot of reading on a 190 grain 30-30 cast bullet for Elk, Moose, or Bear. A lot of that was as far back from the 1940s. Back then some hunters tested them on a bear and that similar bullet drove itself between 18.5 to 20 into a bear (Including bone.) it had good penetration.

I will be casting the 130 grain and 150 grain molds later on. I think the lead mix Im using is dropping heavy. Bullets are water quenched.


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