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Old 08-02-2013, 9:24 PM
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I was reading a magazine that referenced petromax lanterns. In looking at another or new brand called brightlyte lanterns they look to be much higher quality than the coleman and have the advantage of burning just about any oil based liquid for light and converting to a 1 burner stove. Looks pretty cool. Appears to be of much higher quality and construction for the cost I could buy a bunch of coleman lanterns.
Now it is not to say that I dislike coleman. In fact I own two of the duel fuel gas lanterns and I am very happy with them. Anyone else have a brightlyte or petromax type lantern? Are they really that good?

http://www.britelyt.com/
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:27 PM
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Wow. $250 - $300 for a lantern is a steep price. I've just use a Coleman propane now and back in the day one's that ran on boy scout juice (white gas).
If I lived in a camping type situation where I used it every day for six months out of the year I would consider one.
But I'm lucky to get out on a camping trip one weekend a year now. Gotta change that!!
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:32 PM
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That lantern is the Cadillac for sure. However you are paying for it...assuming its in stock. To change fuels you change parts. Also it is pressurized so is relatively loud and is not necessarily economical. Some if the units can be used as heaters.

I have been waiting about 15 months now for them to come in stock. Apparently to be sold to gov they needed a redesign of the tank and there have been delays.
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I can't bear to part with my white gas Coleman lanterns.

I've supplemented with Black Diamond LED lanterns when extra light is needed.
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Old 08-03-2013, 7:46 PM
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Bio-lite

http://biolitestove.com/



Don't have one yet but thinking of adding one to my old ladies pack while I carry the Coleman and fuel.
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Old 08-03-2013, 8:58 PM
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I do like that stove. I was also looking at some of the conversions on the web for coleman lanterns. They can be converted to kerosene, is so then I would think diesel also. the pre heating the tube just does not seem worth the effort.
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Old 08-03-2013, 9:59 PM
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These work great.

http://www.amazon.com/Rayovac-Sports...ds=led+lantern
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Old 08-04-2013, 6:40 AM
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Many years ago, I switched from using white gas lanterns to a Coleman battery powered fluorescent tube lantern. It is safe to have inside a tent because it never gets hot, nor does it use up the oxygen. It does not require any cleaning or maintenance or change of parts (I am still using the same fluorescent tubes that came with the lantern but I have a couple of spares)
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I'd put my money into hands on learning primitive survival skills before I spent a dime on special gear that requires fuel of any kind. But, I'm looking at long term survival when you have no warning and are not close to your BOB. If you can't make fire, clothing, shelter and weapons with whatever you find in nature, you're only going to survive as long as you have and can use your fancy equipment. That said, the fancy equipment, if you can access it, will provide a little comfort for the first few days of some events.
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Be more realistic and as with all prepping try to just live for 30-60 days without the gubmint coming to bail us out. If it's Mad Max, even if Rambo can survive, all his dependents are probably dead as fried chicken.
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Many years ago, I switched from using white gas lanterns to a Coleman battery powered fluorescent tube lantern. It is safe to have inside a tent because it never gets hot, nor does it use up the oxygen. It does not require any cleaning or maintenance or change of parts (I am still using the same fluorescent tubes that came with the lantern but I have a couple of spares)
I use a coleman led lantern with individual panels that can be taken for the kids and for use inside the tent. For general camp lighting I like the gas lantern. I guess for memories as a kid camping with the hissing of the lantern plus I like the light that it throws.
The other use I thought of the gas lanterns was for bugging in. If the SHTF bad enough there will be plenty of old stale gas that can be pulled out of cars that would not run a vehicle otherwise same goes for the coleman stove.
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Old 08-04-2013, 7:39 AM
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Over the years I have been able to purchase quite a few used Coleman multi fuel lanterns and stoves really cheap that are in great condition. I currently have 4 lanterns, 3 backpack single burners and a large triple burner camp stove. My total investment is about $125-150. Spare parts are readily available all over the US and many parts are interchangeable between units, I have a small box of spare parts too, funnels, filters, o-rings, tubes, mantels. Needless to say I also have have quite a bit of stored fuel for them, 13 gallons.

While the multi-use multi-fuel unit might be nice IMHO the price does not justify the expense concidering what one can find on the used market and the price of fuel.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:36 AM
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A good place to get them cheep or even free is craighslist if you want traditional. I have a few gas laterns and a few led solar powered ones too. The old gas ones are nice because they can take a licking and keep ticking but the led ones are alot more fragile. You could also get those old mining kerosine lanterns cheep at kmart or ther places. I got two for $5 each. Those things can work on lighter fluid, kerosine or, any flamible liquid realy just stay away from anything petrolium based and go towards alchool or moonshine
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I picked up a Coleman duel-fuel for about $80

White gas or gasoline.

Ended up being able to fix the old lantern by putting some olive oil on the pump o-ring.
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I would suggest a few of these award-winning LED solar/110 D-lights made for the developing world:

http://www.amazon.com/d-light-S20-So.../dp/B00BJELHS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmk2nM_aZc

These use AAA's sealed within the lantern that are of seemingly good quality.
I used these to great effect when the power went out for 4 days.

Totally satisfied....very happy with the light output. The unit body design is outstanding and truly shines when carrying them around in the house/outside or angling them up on a nail on the wall.

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Over the years I have been able to purchase quite a few used Coleman multi fuel lanterns and stoves really cheap that are in great condition. I currently have 4 lanterns, 3 backpack single burners and a large triple burner camp stove. My total investment is about $125-150. Spare parts are readily available all over the US and many parts are interchangeable between units, I have a small box of spare parts too, funnels, filters, o-rings, tubes, mantels. Needless to say I also have have quite a bit of stored fuel for them, 13 gallons.

While the multi-use multi-fuel unit might be nice IMHO the price does not justify the expense concidering what one can find on the used market and the price of fuel.
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i like propane and propane accessories
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I need a propane tube thing for a stove, no place local had parts or maintenance kits
Not sure what that tube thing actually us called, its the tube that connects to the propane bottle and screws into the side of the stove
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:37 AM
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Is this for a dual fuel conversion to propane or for a propane stove
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:58 PM
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The propane thing
I think it's a regulator assembly
The tube that connects the propane to the side of the stove
That is if that question was at me anyways
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I did see one of those biofuel things at rei
Burn twigs to heat up water or charge a cell phone
Looks cool
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I need a propane tube thing for a stove, no place local had parts or maintenance kits
Not sure what that tube thing actually us called, its the tube that connects to the propane bottle and screws into the side of the stove
There are 2 important things to understand for this assuming your house and existing stove are currently running natural gas.

If you dont pay attention, and understand what you're doing, you could kill everyone in the house.

First- the hose thingy- would be a regulator. Available at a camping or RV supplier.

second. Here's the danger part. Pay attention. There's 2 parts to this.

Natural gas, and propane require a different mix of fuel to air. The nozzle that the natural gas or propane goes through is a different size.

1-So the nozzle size has to be changed.

2- The fuel air mix ratio usually also needs to be changed. Adjusting the air inlet next to the gas nozzle for the correct fuel air mix. In some instances, perhaps changing the gas nozzle is enough-

3- get this wrong, you will build up carbon monoxide and everyone in the house will take a permanent nap.

Do not screw with this until you FULLY understand what you're messing with, and why/how everything interacts.


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Safest option. Look for and buy a stove already set up for propane and keep it in storage. Or, have a pro come out and 'convert your stove' to propane and keep all the parts and understand where they go and how to use them.


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Unless you live on the outskirts of town and are already on a propane setup.... then you just need the regulator thingy to hook up a portable propane bottle.

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Your misunderstanding something
I'm not converting anything
I was just inspecting my camping equipment and found I am missing the regulator on my Coleman propane stove
This thread happen to pop up right after I found it to be missing.

I like Coleman stuff, but have only propane equipment, was wondering myself about dual fuel stoves and such also.

I like the solar option linked up there too
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Your misunderstanding something
I'm not converting anything
I was just inspecting my camping equipment and found I am missing the regulator on my Coleman propane stove
This thread happen to pop up right after I found it to be missing.

I like Coleman stuff, but have only propane equipment, was wondering myself about dual fuel stoves and such also.

I like the solar option linked up there too
OH!!!!!

HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!

I thought you were talking about running propane to a regular kitchen stove and storing propane tanks for an emergency!

I've seen the regulators at an RV supply store. They have a lot of different ones for different BTU ratings.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:38 AM
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I ordered one from Coleman
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I agree with the OP as to cost/usage, to me propane lanterns are lower cost and can run quite a while on propane, as opposed to run times using more expensive batteries, the first time use cost (buy lantern) then the cost per hour is cheaper the way I'm looking at it.
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I need a propane tube thing for a stove, no place local had parts or maintenance kits
Not sure what that tube thing actually us called, its the tube that connects to the propane bottle and screws into the side of the stove
If the parts are for a Coleman product just call the Coleman corporation.
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