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Old 08-26-2019, 6:25 AM
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i rent out my silencers. ya form 1 2 3 or 4 one and you will be typing silencer and not suppressor so those that get bent probably never saw those forms.

damaging a suppressor is no big deal. ive had baffle strikes. just order new parts and charge the customer for damage. a barrel is strong. a thin silencer is weak. non issue as the weakest part is farthest away and bends instead of explodes.

all nfa items must be in control of the owner or responsible person so they cannot be handed out unless there was a way to deny exit from the premises. not likely to have that happen.

i let clients use my suppressors on thier guns. i even have pistons for guns i dont own.

i also let clients put thier uppers on my selectfire lowers or install auto sears in thier host guns. ive got setups for ar hk and glocks.
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Old 08-26-2019, 6:41 AM
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Old 08-26-2019, 8:38 AM
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I've rented silenced firearms at a range near Salt Lake City.
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:39 AM
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**suppressors......
No such thing as a "silencer"
The patent is called Silencer. So silencer is what they are.

Also you have to have a certain FFL to have suppressors at your range. They are not cheap.
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Old 08-26-2019, 1:18 PM
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The patent is called Silencer. So silencer is what they are.

Also you have to have a certain FFL to have suppressors at your range. They are not cheap.
I'm also in a free state, and don't need an FFL for anything......
But I understand the sentiment. We also have certain laws here that mandate local law enforcement to not enforce anti 2A laws....
Even my son has a can on his 10/22
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Old 08-26-2019, 1:18 PM
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Suppressor and silencer are used interchangeably in the gun community. I've heard people use either in the same sentence. Silencershop sells suppressors. Ar15.com subsection is called "Silencers". It doesn't really matter because they are both correct, unlike mistaking a magazine for a "clip".

I don't think they make much of a difference shooting at an indoor gun range when the people next to you aren't using one. If it was only you it's okay, but I would still using hearing protection indoors unless it was subsonic .22lr. I suppose some of the other subsonic loads would be okay, but you should really wear hearing protection anyways. The big difference in shooting suppressors outdoors. I still use hearing protection though, because a good set of ear muffs only brings down the gun shot by 24-34db, with about 24-26 being average. So on a 5.56 SBR my ear protection is still ~138-145db depending on which suppressor I'm using, and anything over 140db is considered to cause hearing damage by OSHA for impact noises. Indoors it'll sound even louder. I use at least a K can on all of my guns to bring the noise level down by 15-20db and then wear hearing protection, except for .22lr or if I am using a handgun and want to practice without a suppressor. Suppressors are neat, but if they weren't regulated I probably wouldn't be into them as much as I am.

Shooting suppressed .45acp at 25-50 yard steel targets with a RMR is a ton of fun.
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Old 08-26-2019, 3:41 PM
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I can't understand wearing ear pro with a can unless you're shooting PRS or the like and mostly using the can to reduce recoil and enhance accuracy. Dealing with silencers is too much hassle if it doesn't give any benefit. Maybe if I could get away with just plugs instead of muffs.
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I can't understand wearing ear pro with a can unless you're shooting PRS or the like and mostly using the can to reduce recoil and enhance accuracy. Dealing with silencers is too much hassle if it doesn't give any benefit. Maybe if I could get away with just plugs instead of muffs.
It never made sense to me. I try to convince my clients not to waste money on rifle suppressors and they still buy them. Then they come back and tell me they never use them because they do not help much. Hunting is useless since any extra weight on a gun is a nightmare to carry. Target shooting requires ear pro.

I only have .22 and pistol caliber cans. I can shoot .22, 9mm, and 45 with no ear pro because I pick my hosts properly. I only need plugs for longer barrel guns like my AR 9mm and Uzi but those run pretty quiet with the 165gr. Not the 147.

Having private land helps a lot. I would not own cans if I could shoot in total quiet.
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Old 08-27-2019, 8:05 AM
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Old 08-27-2019, 9:14 AM
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I can't understand wearing ear pro with a can unless you're shooting PRS or the like and mostly using the can to reduce recoil and enhance accuracy. Dealing with silencers is too much hassle if it doesn't give any benefit. Maybe if I could get away with just plugs instead of muffs.
Because hearing damage is cumulative. Even with a good set of earphones, which 5.56 down to 132-138db, another 50,000 rounds of 5.56 over my life is not going to be good for my hearing. I always shoot rifles with at least a K can before I put on headphones for this reason. When shooting 5.56 I have stopped bothering with full size suppressors and only keep them on my home defense rifles.

I can shoot 5.56 on my 16in with a sandman K and not have ringing or pain, but neither of those are the threshold for permanent hearing loss. I hopefully have another 50 years left and would like my hearing for as long as possible.

My DA ghost shooting .45 I have been pretty happy with and I'll shoot that without ear pro for a little while, but I typically leave them on just to be safe. I have been disappointed with dedicated 9mm suppressors even with 147gr ammo.
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Old 08-27-2019, 2:57 PM
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So why even bother with using a can? They're a pain in the keester. Even the cheapest muffs you can buy are plenty of protection against 5.56. They even work fine when my 10.5" pistol was setting off car alarms.
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