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Old 11-16-2013, 5:15 PM
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Savage 10 or the Remington 700? In .308 caliber?
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H&R or Rossi single shot rifle in .270 under $300
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What's a "sniper rifle"? Are you a "sniper"?
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It's just a question.... Should I use long range rifle instead?
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the savage 10tr is a nice option, tough to find but i'm told worth it
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how long and whats the budget or is this another "AR vs AK" hypothetical conversation?
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how long and whats the budget or is this another "AR vs AK" hypothetical conversation?
.308 caliber for 500 yard to 1000 yard. We're not considering the scope.... but just the rifle.
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Both are good rifles. Personally, I think I lean toward the Remington. But, I also just recently picked up a ruger American in .308. I haven't yet had a chance to test it out, but it seems to be well built and I've heardots of good reviews. And, it was les expensive than bother the savage and the Remington.

You will probably be happy with any of those choices.

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Remington 700 SPS tactical.
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.308 for $249 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=376461087

Savage Axis .308 for around $280
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Savage Axis .308 for around $280
Those Handi-Rifles are tack drivers. At least my 22Hornet and 223 are.
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Remington 700 SPS tactical.
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Remington 700's go from about $600 to around $2200. What is your budget?

Loads of extras on the market for Remmy 700's to customize yours to whatever you are trying to achieve. The 700 SPS is an inexpensive to get in for not much money (~ $600+). For about $1000, the 700P or LTR. For around $1200, the 5R. For around $2200, the Target Tactical. There are others.

Most of the precision shooters I know of, that do not shoot custom rifles, shoot Remingtons. I do not know a lot of them, but I know a few.

PS: If you are in the act of "sniping", whatever rifle in your hand is a Sniper Rifle. It is not a particular type of rifle. A precision rifle, setup for shooting longer ranges, works well for this.
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You must like the feature on the sps?
SPS no unless your replacing the stock the min you get it home. The SPS Tactical has great features and a decent stock to hold you until you can afford a better stock. Either way both guns stocks leave much for improvement but for the price the SPS tactical has a lot to offer. Best bang for your buck IMO. So is the SPS again as long as you have a stock ready for it ASAP.
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Are you an idiot that you need to attempt to make yourself feel important by picking on someone for using the word sniper?

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I've been on other forums before but what I notice about this forum is some guys tend to be negative and disrespectful. Especially toward new gun owners. Just my experience. Thanks for your response bud.
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A 91-30 or M39 will also so the job.
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SPS no unless your replacing the stock the min you get it home. The SPS Tactical has great features and a decent stock to hold you until you can afford a better stock. Either way both guns stocks leave much for improvement but for the price the SPS tactical has a lot to offer. Best bang for your buck IMO. So is the SPS again as long as you have a stock ready for it ASAP.
Thank you for your response, will seriously look into getting the SPS then. I'm not planning to rush this purchase but don't mind paying extra for a decent long range percision rifle. The scope I will do later.
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Check out this link for a "Budget Precision Build": http://8541tactical.com/budget%20pre...%20article.php

I recently jailed a Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD for ~$625
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Check out this link for a "Budget Precision Build": http://8541tactical.com/budget%20pre...%20article.php

I recently jailed a Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD for ~$625
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He has YouTube videos that go through all the changes as well. Part 1 starts at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoW5bHQqgis
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He'd tell you, but then he'd have to kill you.
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I'm considering getting the 30-06 version of the Remington... what do you guys think?
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Spend $300 on a decent bolt 22. Shoot it silly and get good trigger skills. Get any decent bolt rifle and decent glass. Say in 308 or 30-06. Work up good loads for it, shoot it until you have outshot its capabilities and can shoot better than the rifle.

After that most sniper rifle questions will answer themselves. And a "sniper rifle" will actually make a difference you can see.
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It's just a question.... Should I use long range rifle instead?
Precision rifle might work...
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Can't go wrong with a .22 with iron sites. Lots of cheap practice, and depending on where you live, may be much easier for you to find a range to shoot it at.

I sugest a pre Remington-takeover Marlin.
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It's just a question.... Should I use long range rifle instead?
Sniper is fine. Everyone should know what you mean.


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I've been on other forums before but what I notice about this forum is some guys tend to be negative and disrespectful. Especially toward new gun owners. Just my experience. Thanks for your response bud.
They tend to get girly and a little pissy about words, sometimes.

The negative and disrespectful posts are saved for those who can't go back 2 or 3 pages and read forward...the question is asked almost every day, the answers don't change.


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As would tactical rifle, sniper rifle, or bolt-action bullet hose.

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Are you an idiot that you need to attempt to make yourself feel important by picking on someone for using the word sniper?

Seriously!
Seriously, we gun owners need to watch our vocabulary. The simple fact is that ANY rifle in the hands of a "sniper" is considered a "sniper rifle". As long as we gun owners keep calling our long range rifles "sniper rifles" and our semi auto sporting rifles "assault weapons", we are just fueling the antis' fire. Obviously, other's here (who obviously have a high IQ than you) have agreed with my thinking. I'm sorry that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand why using the wrong words can, will and has hurt the entire 2A movement. I'm also sorry that you don't have the cranial capacity to read and understand the simplest rules on this forum.

Smitty,
Maybe you can enlighten us or just give us a good laugh by posting YOUR personal definition of "sniper rifle"?
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Agreed with CSA. The next time we have one of these mysterious "mass shootings" and they find a bolt gun at the crime scene, the antis will be creaming themselves about "sniper rifles" and all our stomachs will be in knots as we patiently wait for the verdict of weather our target/hunting rifles are going to be banned or not. Similar to what happened this year with semi auto rifles.

OP, do you hand load? If not, a longer barrel will give you more options with factory ammo. Short barrels like the SPS Tactical need a light bullet and a lot of charge to make it to 1K. A SPS varmint, 700P, 5R, or whatever Savage with a 24"+ barrel will be beneficial to you and you can find factory loaded match ammo that will shoot to 1K.. If you don't hand load now and want to get serious about long range shooting, maybe even compete, you should learn to reload. If you plan on shooting long range once a year for fun, then get whatever and make the best of it.
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Get the cheapest 700 Remington you can find and build a decent rifle on it chambered in something other than 308.
$300 for a 700.
$325 for a barrel.
$200 for a trigger.
$300 for a stock.
It will be a better longrange gun than anything you can buy off the shelf.

On your cartridge the 308 is to longrange shooting what the Volkswagen Beetle is to Indy Car Racing.
If you said 308 because you don't reload and cheap ammo is everywhere for it it will get you by.
If you actually want to hit something smaller than the above mentioned Volkswagen you can get factory ammo for 6BR,300 WSM,30-06,280,300 Win Mag,300 Weatherby,6.5x284 or several others that leave the 308 in there dust.
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Get the cheapest 700 Remington you can find and build a decent rifle on it chambered in something other than 308.
$300 for a 700.
$325 for a barrel.
$200 for a trigger.
$300 for a stock.
It will be a better longrange gun than anything you can buy off the shelf.

On your cartridge the 308 is to longrange shooting what the Volkswagen Beetle is to Indy Car Racing.
If you said 308 because you don't reload and cheap ammo is everywhere for it it will get you by.
If you actually want to hit something smaller than the above mentioned Volkswagen you can get factory ammo for 6BR,300 WSM,30-06,280,300 Win Mag,300 Weatherby,6.5x284 or several others that leave the 308 in there dust.
So you suggest a new shooter start with a win.mag. or some exotic round? Seriously? You shoot much long range? Try going to a long range match and seeing what the guys who know what they're doing shoot. You won't see a WSM, 30-06, or a Weatherby of any kind.

Does a new racer step right out of a Honda Civic and into an Indy car for a 200 mph lap? Any new shooter needs to learn the basics first. Learn to read wind, effects of temperature, etc., and work their way up. The 308 is probably the best round to learn long range on. If the OP outgrows it, he can then have his rifle rebarreled to whatever hot rod round he chooses. But by that time he'll probably want a custom rifle.
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Yes I am a longrange shooter and yes I see those chamberings every time I go to a match,
As a matter of fact sunday is a 600 yard match at Ojai,Ca and the winning shooter will be using a 6.5x284 and a 300 Weatherby both.

The OP can buy a cheap 308 in rough shape and shoot it while he/she is acquiring the parts for a accurate build on his/her action.

As many here have suggested he/she spend $1200 on a Remington that to me is $900 thrown out the window that would have paid for a good barrel and a decent stock.

The fact that you don't know anything about longrange shooting is evident in your post saying you won't see a WSM or a Weatherby of any kind at a match.

The 300 WSM has won more matches than you and your nearest 10 friends have ever attended.

The Weatherby round has won over 60% of the IBS 1000 yard matches and is still a cartridge to deal with at any match.

These matches have been up and running long before the Mall Ninja crowd got ahold of a 308 and thought they knew it all.
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