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Marine Corp OCS
Ok well I finally signed up for OCS. I have MEPS this Friday and I get shipped off to OCS January 3rd.
For any of you guys that have gone through it or that have info on it what can I expect? As you can tell I am slightly nervous/excited. Sorry guys I have a billion things running through my head right now. Thanks, SSpen
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It's been a few years since I went through OCS, but send me a PM with your contact info and we can talk about it.
For starters, it's nothing like Full Metal Jacket. It is similar, but you're going to officer training, not enlisted boot camp, so the instructor staff have a different set of priorities by which they evaluate the candidates. Bunch of other differences, but seeing as you have until Jan 3rd, you have plenty of time to get ready. |
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Did you read One Bullet Away by Nathaniel Fick? I think he mention a lot of running!!!
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Congrats....remember, SNCO's & NCO's run it, just shut up and learn!! HAHAHA, just kidding...seriously.
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Good luck, it's going to be a long year. My buddy went through in 2000 and they let him have it. He was a 11 year SNCO and told me it was "different" than boot camp. Are you Air or Ground?
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Thanks for the info guys. Yeah my recruiter told me about the Book "One Bullet Away" He said it was the best description he had of OCS. Im going in Ground. I want to be a Ground Intelligence Officer, Calvary Scout or Infantry.
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Yeah, used to be you could go through with an AA and then you had to get your bachelors before the end of your first term...but I think that's out now.
6172crew, when did your buddy go through OCS? I went through OCC 175, October-December 2000. Seems like a lifetime ago now.. |
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2 of our old LT/Capt pilots are now slated to take command at HMM161 and HMM166. It seems like yesterday we were drinking beer with them(hell one of them used to make beer for us barracks guys) and now they are Skippers. My old CO was a Vietnam Pilot, these guys joined after 1993, so its hard for me to see them in that position. BTW both of these guys were some of the best Zeros I have ever met! Im going to call them one day and tell them I think so.
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Im sure thats one reason Marine Zeros dont smell like boot polish when they show up at the first FMF. Semper Gumby right?
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Maybe not, but the shiny look takes a while to disappear.
The mustangs definitely don't get any slack at OCS, makes it particularly interesting when you have candidates that technically outrank the instructors. Had a GySgt or two in my class, and a few SSgts. Every once in a while, you get some good officers. One of my groomsmen just left HMLA-169 to go to the RAG...maybe someday he'll make a good squadron CO. |
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OCS
OCS. Wow. Memory lane...
I went through Enlisted Bootcamp at Camp Pendleton...yes, a Hollywood Marine. OCS I went through "Camp Upshur", the last of the best, as well as Brown Field. The difference between the two is substantial. Bootcamp, in any and all ways, is there to enable people to ultimately become Marines. While not everyone makes it, Drill Instructors ultimately ensure that if an Individual has what it takes to be a Marine, they're there to "help". You learn above all things the value of teamwork. You will spend some good quality time with PRAC, practical application knowledge... OCS is a whole different ball of wax. You will be there competing for slots with current decorated enlisted Marines, some of the top athletes graduating from College, and a large amount of people who ooze leadership traits. A Marine Officer is there to lead Marines, and do so by example. OCS isn't there to train you to be a Marine (The Basic School is, and you spend 6 months of quality time doing so) - OCS is a discriminatory event the intent of which is to weed out the non hacker, non leading types that would make a crappy Marine Officer. Some existing Marines don't make it. People with no prior experience in the military overachieve and excel. It all depends on who *you* are, and you don't get enough runway to cram and learn to be a leader overnight. Your job while at OCS is #1 to make it, with a very close #2: to demonstrate a substantial amount of leadership that allows you to direct and influence others in being Marines. If you cannot lead, you will not make it. Running is a very intimate part of OCS. Lots of it. If you can't run while at OCS, you will struggle far more than say...even in Marine Corps bootcamp. Hopefully this helps.... |
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I've seen a Lt. run a PFT wearing a full pack.. Time: 19 min xx sec. |
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I hear the Quigley is pretty fun... of course I did the adult version at San Dog... Just kidding. Good luck, The Corps can always use more good leaders. Hope you'll be on of them.
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OCS+ organized chicken ****. Expect a lot of stupid **** boring and tedious crap. Also dont forget that the people serving under you are people also.
That i guess was my biggest pet peeve. When we got a officer that basically didnt give a crap except for his portfolio and how to brownnose to get higher rank |
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One day you will be #6 on this list.
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As a Marine officer my best piece of advice I can give you is 3 things:
1) Run ALOT 2) Do lots of pull ups, 1 pull up is worth almost the same as 1 minute on the 3 mile run 3) OCS and TBS are like OZ, they are NOTHING like the real Marine Corps If you can do the first two before you go, and constantly remind yourself of #3 while you're there you will get through the bullcrap. Just play the game |
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I just ran my first PT today and got ~256. I have six months to finish training though.
18 pull-ups.. 20 by next week 93 sit ups.. damn wth, 100 by next week 23:09 3 mile, just started running last week though, hopefully by next week ill be at 22:00
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Oh yes I know. I still have 6 months though and I am starting to do pt 4 days a week and lifting on off days.
I wont go unprepared, just seems like a way to get NPQ'ed quick
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Get some practice rope climbing if you can - it can be intimidating if you've never done it before, and lots of people that are otherwise stellar athletes have trouble on the ropes at the O-course.
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Hey sspen003 im curious, how long did the singing up process take you in regards to ocs? Im currently a senior at my university and i've been thinking about taking the same route.
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It really depends on if you have waivers or not. Tattoo's etc. Just PM me and ill get you in contact with my OSO. For me it took about a month, but that is fast bc I dont have any waivers.
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Yeah supposedly this winter is going to be extra cold. I had some friends ship out this morning. Damn I wish I was going sooner
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SSpen,
I recently got back from a lovely vacation on the bank of the Potomac. If you have any questions and would like a detailed list of what to bring or do, let me know. I will do what I can to help out a nasty heinous candidate. Brendan |
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How was the weather?
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I can't give any advice on OCS, but I can say that when you get to the fleet, you should learn to trust the NCO's under your direction. Many times they will know how to get things done better than the officers do, and micromanaging them by telling them how to do every little detail will just breed mistrust and contempt.
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