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.45 acp identification
Hi guys,
I'm doing an inventory on my inherited reloading supplies, lucky for me my grandpa was organized. Came across this bullet though, and not sure if I trust the label on the box they're in. Pic attached, container labeled "45 ACP 200 LHP" It looks like a Jhp to me, maybe a slight hiccup in labeling?
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Let he who never makes spelling errors throw the first dictionary.
Let me recommend this load. Rock Island Arsenal GI M1911 5" barrel 185 gr Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM Mixed cases WLP OAL 1.210" taper crimp 0.469" 27-May-20 T = 80 °F Ave Vel = 984 Std Dev = 26.09 ES = 91.41 High = = 1028 Low = 936.7 N = 11 Remington 1911 R1 Two Tone, 185 Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM, WLP OAL 1.210" taper crimp 0.469" 21-Apr-20 T = 76 °F Ave Vel = 1016 Std Dev = 12 ES = 31.42 High = = 1033 Low = 1002 N = 8 note:Lucky Gunner Factory Velocity = 955 fps But factory ad claimed 1055 fps muzzle velocity. Colt SIG SAUER P220 185 Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5, Lot DM WLP (brass) Mixed Military 6/19/2011 T = 88 °F Ave Vel = 980 Std Dev = 15 ES = 46.5 High = 1004 Low = 957.5 N = 8 |
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Weight them and measure them and work up a load?
What am I missing here?
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It looks like a plated hollow point, so LHP, Lead Hollow Point makes sense.
45 acp boolits.JPG
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230gr ball included with mystery hollow point for reference. Quote:
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He’s talking about the hollow point. He’s using the FMJ as a size reference. For a guy who freely throws the “stupid” around, you should take a look at yourself before posting anymore critical comments.
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First, weigh some of those hollow points to make sure they're really 200gr.
Next, assuming you have verified that weight, then I would recommend the following load. This is for 200gr bullets; do not try this with the 230gr one! 5.4gr Titegroup Any standard large pistol primer This is a max load for .45 ACP with a 200gr load. Works great in every gun I've ever tried it in. I use the typical mixture of headstamped brass that one would find at a range.
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Thanks for the tip, I dont have titegroup but i do have bullseye. If theres multiple containers of this bullet, I'm sure there is a recipe my grandpa developed in a notebook somewhere in my stack. If not, I'll pick up some titegroup later on (if possible)
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I don't know why the box says 820 fps, but this was the match load. |
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your bullet was cast to form and then chemically/electrically COATED with copper. the true JHP's you have were formed by swaging a cup of jacket material around a cylindrical core. the two types use different load data. use data for cast bullets with the plated hollowpoint.
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Is there a pin in the center of the hollow point or just an open tip?
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Gold dot
Here is the one with the little pin in the center
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That being a plated bullet with the hollowpoint pressed into the bullet after plating, you would treat it as a lead bullet of the same shape for load selection purposes.
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.45 acp identification
Last I heard, Rainier (bullet company) has closed their doors. I liked their bullets for the 500 S&W.
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