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Old 03-07-2019, 8:15 PM
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Question Hard Drive is Full - What brands to Get or Avoid

I don't need anything too fast.

Looking to add a second hard drive into my PC to store Photos and Video. Probably 2tb - 5tb

I know Japan had some issues with drives made after the Tsunami...

Any brands to get or Avoid?
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Avoid Seagate.

Go for HGST or Toshiba.
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Why not just get a 4-6tb external drive? Strangely enough, it's cheaper than getting an internal drive of the same size. I'd go for Western Digital Blue. Not fast, but reliable, and inexpensive.

Seagate? I use them. They've upped their game in the last, five years. Before that? Forget it!
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Avoid Seagate.

Go for HGST or Toshiba.
Get whatever you want, a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Reliability statistics are good across all brands.

Buy a hdd that meets your needs, migrate data and replace within 5 years, maintain backups of important data, done.
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Get whatever you want, a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Reliability statistics are good across all brands.

Buy a hdd that meets your needs, migrate data and replace within 5 years, maintain backups of important data, done.

Sample size is 98,046.

Among the 4TB drives, HGST and Toshiba score better than the Seagates and WDC drives, up until the 8TB range.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-...s-for-q1-2018/
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Avoid Seagate.

Go for HGST or Toshiba.
Do not get seagate. I’ve had two of theres Fry and lost irreplaceable items.
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Seagate used to be the gold standard. Western Digital was crap. That seems to have changed over the years. Toshiba and IBM were always top shelf also.

Maxtor was always my go-to standard, but the last couple I bought were WD Blue Label and I’ve had no problems.
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Stay away from Seagate, they have the highest failure rate in the industry by far. HGST has the lowest failure rate, and are usually priced pretty competitively. Toshiba and WD are also good.

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I'd avoid spinning rust-platter, unless cost is a major factor...
or as a secondary-to-tertiary.

SSDs are cheap these days.

They all have about a 10-year life, in theory (but I can still really still pull data from rust-platters 20 years later)...
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Best thing I ever did was dump the spinners and go SSD. Easy upgrade and decent prices. Snappy fast data transfer is nice.
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Best thing I ever did was dump the spinners and go SSD. Easy upgrade and decent prices. Snappy fast data transfer is nice.
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I'd avoid spinning rust-platter, unless cost is a major factor...
or as a secondary-to-tertiary.

SSDs are cheap these days.

They all have about a 10-year life, in theory (but I can still really still pull data from rust-platters 20 years later)...
The problem with that, is that he seems to need storage. SSD's large enough to be decent storage, are still pricey.

Spinning platters are fine, if you're only using them for storage. Get an external drive to back up on.

Rarely used = rarely breaks. I still have my first, external drive. over ten years old, still quiet, still dependable, and it IS a Seagate 3tb drive. Because I only store things on it, the drive probably has less than 200 hours on it. I spin it up occasionally, to keep it working. No problems.

I have a significant amount invested in external storage. 22tb worth, actually. All of it works, and a third, are "mirrored".

Each of my laptops, have a secondary, 1tb/7200rpm, HGST hdd installed in the optical drive bay, with a Primary SSD, ranging from 256gb-1tb SSD. I use the secondary HDD in those computers to keep Microsoft Office on, a Macrium Reflect image on, and data storage.

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I read this thread yesterday and was surprised at the comments about Seagate drives. I've never had a problem with them. The only drives I've ever had a problem with were the old WD 80GB drives. I've had many of them fail.

Well not 10 minutes after reading the tread my USB Seagate 2TB backup drive failed. Since I back up several different ways it wasn't a huge deal. When I took the drive apart to dispose of it I found a bunch of metal fragments in it. The plates were fine. I think the fragments came from the armature. Seagate is now on my don't buy list. The drive was only about 2 years old and didn't get used excessively.
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Also look at getting NAS or enterprise grade drives, the warranty and life cycle are usually longer and better. With over 25 years in tech, I have had issues with all brands. And take into consideration that the market/manufacturers has contracted. For example, I love of the high end Samsung SSDs, which is owned by Seagate. If I recall, they also own LeCie and a few others. IBM no longer manufactures hard drives, Hitach and SanDisk are owned by WD.
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I have not seen any reason to retire my trusty zip drive and zip discs. I keep an 8gb memory stick handy, but it just seems like overkill. Sort of a "nuclear option" for the next Y2K.
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Without deleting raw (actual RAW photo files and raw video) media, I'm now producing about 2.5TB a year and increasing. I'm not sure what your workflow is, but here's mine.

1. 'Working' drive is an external USB 4TB that is fresh with this year's media (starting 01/01). I call this my working drive since this is what I do my put my active work on.
2. All post-processed media is also stored on that working drive (e.g. exported jpg, exported mp4).
3. This drive is rsync'ed to a 3.5" 4TB platter drive using a SATA to USB adapter every week or so.
4. At the end/turn of the year, I get a new external USB and 3.5" platter drive (same size as the other) and start over. The previous year 3.5" platter drive is put into a storage case and labelled and kept in a different location. The external USB working drive is kept on-hand for reference.

This works for me. I'm not a fan of getting some RAID 5 or 10 enclosure and trying to keep a massive volume to keep my media on.
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I would only use SSD for archival data if it is replicated N+1 or N+3 to be sure. The forensic recovery business is very mature for spinning platters, where they can be redeployed to a new chassis if need be.

SSD's once dead are completely lost to time. Forensic recovery is much more time consuming and expensive.

Make many copies and across different media with different tolerances.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0713WPGLL

A colleague of mine who is a professional editor uses these. $99 for 4tb is pretty sweet.
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my last external seagate went kaput (costco model). Before that, it was a drive I bought an external enclosure for. kaput too just right after the warranty.

gave up on them. i put WD on my old nas (green model iirc). i'll want a second nas now too and hoping they don't come with seagate.
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get these when on sale for about $160. i keep a complete one to one off line back up of my data. important data should be copied off site as well maybe on the cloud as well. i pop these out and toss them in my file server.


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I read this thread yesterday and was surprised at the comments about Seagate drives. I've never had a problem with them. The only drives I've ever had a problem with were the old WD 80GB drives. I've had many of them fail.
I have had so many WD's go bad over the years, and IBM's etc... not too many Seagates because I avoided. Data recovery was always possible except a handful.

I think I started buying them again when the portable laptop size drives came out. Now I use Samsung or ADATA or a few other brands of SSD's with one of those SATA+power to USB cables - perfect portable drive that is super light.

For mass storage, I have a Synology full of 10TB Seagates... OOPS.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0713WPGLL

A colleague of mine who is a professional editor uses these. $99 for 4tb is pretty sweet.
I have four of these. I concur. I also have a couple Seagate 2tb drives like these. They've also been reliable.
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I've been using Seagate drives for years. Older ones weren't so great, but any made in the last five years or so, are no worse than any other brand. Personally, nowadays, there isn't a dimes worth of difference between any of them.
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Seagate used to be the gold standard in drives from about 1984 until the mid 2000's. Their server drives were the best and fastest you could get.

They fell down after acquiring Maxtor in 2006 and absorbing their manufacturing. Seagate shifted their consumer manufacturing to the new facilities in Thailand and then onto China. These drives had the worst reliability due to poor logic boards and the dual plague of poor capacitors and lead-free solder. But, those issues affected everyone initially.

They've gotten better since, but I'm still wary of their consumer lines. The server lines were never affected due to their higher margins. At least their failure rates weren't appreciably higher than Fujitsu or other enterprise models.
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Fry's has the WD Blue on sale for $90/w free shipping - $10 cheaper than Amazon


https://www.frys.com/product/8078024...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

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I don't need anything too fast.

Looking to add a second hard drive into my PC to store Photos and Video. Probably 2tb - 5tb

I know Japan had some issues with drives made after the Tsunami...

Any brands to get or Avoid?
I've used both Toshiba and Western Digital, both with no issues. I've also stuck to external only for all docs, pics, videos, etc. When **** gets real, it's easier to grab an extrranl HD than a computer, even if it's a laptop. It's also easier to move to the new system when you upgrade to a new computer. Unplug from one, plug into the new one, voila! They're also dirt cheap. I paid like $40 for a 1TB Toshiba about 3 years ago.
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The 8TB Iron Wolfs are on sale for $214 at New Egg... these are for NAS setups.
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I've used Western Digital Velociraptor hard drives for many years on my main PC, which I use for work and play for more than 5 years. I have 2 working in RAID 0 configuration, this is prior to SSD becoming as affordable as they are today but they work well enough.

Highly recommended.
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I've used Western Digital Velociraptor hard drives for many years on my main PC, which I use for work and play for more than 5 years. I have 2 working in RAID 0 configuration, this is prior to SSD becoming as affordable as they are today but they work well enough.

Highly recommended.
I agree with the WD drives. All my personal computers now have either SanDisk (a WD company), or the Samsung EVO 860 SSD's. All my laptops have a secondary mechanical drive. Either a WD, or HGST.

I don't know where the HGST got a bit of a bad reputation, I've had less trouble with them, than any other brand.
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Some good advice in this thread, and some FUD.

I'm in the hardware storage industry and have been for years, so I have some experience with this topic.

All makers experience failed units, anything mechanical will break down over time, be it guns / cars / trucks / hard drives / toilets. Anyone who says "WD sucks" or "Seagate sucks" isn't looking at the bigger picture.

That said, most of us buy consumer drives (vs enterprise drives) and shop on price, so if price is your biggest criteria, I'd go with that. Others may need specific feature sets, so if you do, shop with that in mind and don't look back.

There really are only two manufacturers left in the world today - WD / Hitachi, and Seagate. Any other maker is a smaller player and doesn't have the volume output, engineering, distribution channels, etc. I'd go with either WD or Seagate as my recommendation on makers.

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What ever happened to ibm? I used to buy their drives mainly back then. Wd for the win. I had two Seagate go bad on me. One went dead just right after the warranty expiration
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Go for the biggest bang for buck. I remember when getting a 3tb Seagate was $140ish now you get 2x storage for that price. SSD I wouldn't spend on unless it's for gaming or applications.
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Some good advice in this thread, and some FUD.

I'm in the hardware storage industry and have been for years, so I have some experience with this topic.

All makers experience failed units, anything mechanical will break down over time, be it guns / cars / trucks / hard drives / toilets. Anyone who says "WD sucks" or "Seagate sucks" isn't looking at the bigger picture.

That said, most of us buy consumer drives (vs enterprise drives) and shop on price, so if price is your biggest criteria, I'd go with that. Others may need specific feature sets, so if you do, shop with that in mind and don't look back.

There really are only two manufacturers left in the world today - WD / Hitachi, and Seagate. Any other maker is a smaller player and doesn't have the volume output, engineering, distribution channels, etc. I'd go with either WD or Seagate as my recommendation on makers.

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I concur here, also. I have multiple redundancies for all my data.
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Holy-crap, you can now get a 1TB Samsung SSD NIB for $117?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147738
Fast enough for my use...
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The problem with that, is that he seems to need storage. SSD's large enough to be decent storage, are still pricey.

Spinning platters are fine, if you're only using them for storage. Get an external drive to back up on.
Whichever you choose buy and external drive a do backups. Any of them can fail.
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Holy-crap, you can now get a 1TB Samsung SSD NIB for $117?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147738
Fast enough for my use...
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I generally backup to at least one other physical device, usually a spinning rust bucket.
QLC NAND, no thanks. Those SSDs have much less endurance than TLC and MLC. There's a good reason those are priced so cheap. The warranty is also not as good, 3 years as opposed to 5. It's worth it (at least to me) to pay the extra $30 for the same capacity 860 EVO for the added reliability and warranty.
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