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Old 05-03-2019, 6:04 PM
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A mag fed repeater that has a plug? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense honestly. I can't even think of a valid argument for the configuration.
His is a single shot. Wasn't sure if that could work for you. Just tossin an idea around. Lol
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So, I was just thinking about the 9mm, 10mm scenario. Given that most uppers in that caliber are blowback, that becomes problematic. Unless something was done to prevent the semiautomatic function, I doubt that CADOJ would sign off on it.
You would half to install a dowel or plug like one of my local gun stores is doing with their SSE2 pistols(which would be turning it into an on roster single shot at that point),or install a really heavy spring so that there was no blowback semiauto function.

Somehow I doubt DOJ would go for either of those-but you would know better than me.

There have been gas operated pistol caliber ARs.

If you Google you can read about them.

Theoretically ,maybe you could ship the pistol with a compatible bcg for that setup but what would be the point?

End user would still have to hook up a gas system or buy another upper, so they might as well just buy a blowback upper at that point.
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So, I was just thinking about the 9mm, 10mm scenario. Given that most uppers in that caliber are blowback, that becomes problematic. Unless something was done to prevent the semiautomatic function, I doubt that CADOJ would sign off on it.
Okay, hear me out - what if you made the pistol upper a ‘bolt-action’, but use a standard upper receiver, and have an extension that connects to the bcg (bolt body) that goes back through the buffer tube that has the bolt-handle sticking out through the buffer tube. That’s the cheapest and easiest part to replace and doesn’t need a wonky upper. Look at the Kel-Tec carbine and how the charging handle sticks out the bottom - like that, but as a bolt action. Maybe a modified A2 buffer shaped piece with a bolt handle and an extra thick buffer tube with a channel and notch for the bolt handle.

You’d have to use some kind of locking mechanism so as to not be capable of firing as semi-auto just by removing the bolt handle, but I’m not familiar enough with the AR bolts to go farther - lemme consult the all knowing YouTube.
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You would half to install a dowel or plug like one of my local gun stores is doing with their SSE2 pistols(which would be turning it into an on roster single shot at that point),or install a really heavy spring so that there was no blowback semiauto function.
I think we pioneered that idea around 2015. I didn't know that idea was still in use anywhere.
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Slight tangent: is the barrel nut loctited on? I can't frikkin get it off. I'm putting so much pressure on it that I'm worried about torquing the upper receiver.
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Slight tangent: is the barrel nut loctited on? I can't frikkin get it off. I'm putting so much pressure on it that I'm worried about torquing the upper receiver.
To the handguard, yes.
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To the handguard, yes.
I mean to the upper receiver. The handguard is off but I can't get the barrel nut to budge.
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I mean to the upper receiver. The handguard is off but I can't get the barrel nut to budge.
No, antiseize.
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No, antiseize.
I'm either going full retard or the anti-seize seized. It's about 50/50 really.
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Slight tangent: is the barrel nut loctited on? I can't frikkin get it off. I'm putting so much pressure on it that I'm worried about torquing the upper receiver.
Righty lefty, tighty loosey or, something...
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I'm either going full retard or the anti-seize seized. It's about 50/50 really.
using upper receiver block?
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Righty lefty, tighty loosey or, something...

Im also having this issue. I broke a wrench already that had a round notch on it. Franklin Armory- what do you suggest to get this off? Is there a special tool? Heat?

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Make sure you use the correct sized wrench. Sometimes you can try to tap the wrench the wrong way to break it loose before loosening. Other than that, I can't give too much advice online. Things can go wrong in a million ways.
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Im also having this issue. I broke a wrench already that had a round notch on it. Franklin Armory- what do you suggest to get this off? Is there a special tool? Heat?

Thanks
Stabilize the upper with upper device of your choice. Use a breaker bar on the wrench, get a good purchase on th barrel nut, hold it in place and pull. Pray.
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Hit it with pb blaster and let it sit awhile.

When putting things back together, make sure to clean it all off.


OR - buy a new upper of your choice, you can get some pretty screaming deals of you look around
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OR - buy a new upper of your choice, you can get some pretty screaming deals of you look around
I was hoping to reuse the upper and handguard with a 9mm barrel. I always have a hard time throwing away gun parts!
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Here's my CA7.





First time "building" an AR. I learned a lot and had fun researching all the options. Took it out to the range yesterday for the first time. I only had about an hour, but seems accurate. No reliability issues. I will probably change the stock trigger. Otherwise, very happy.

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^ Looks good, what brand upper and length did you go with?
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^ Looks good, what brand upper and length did you go with?


Thanks. Aero Precision M4E1 Enhanced upper with their 12” keymod handguard


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Nice built! Is this a semi now though?

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I keep eyeing that PSA deal -.300 BLK pistol kit for $269...
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Nice built! Is this a semi now though?
I'm guessing yes. You can see the gas block and the Compmag.
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I keep eyeing that PSA deal -.300 BLK pistol kit for $269...
I’ve been eyeing there 10.5” 556 upper for $159. Going to wait if it drops any lower for Memorial Day
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I’ve been eyeing there 10.5” 556 upper for $159. Going to wait if it drops any lower for Memorial Day
Wow, that is cheap. Someone is cutting corners there somewhere!
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I'm guessing yes. You can see the gas block and the Compmag.


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Some of you may notice that we got a second pistol on the roster today. The reason we had to do this was that our magazine supplier was not able to deliver reliably. Consequently, we retested the same gun with a Magpul 10 round Pmag. We had to do this by law since selling it with a different magazine was not legal unless we retested the gun.

I am now working with CADOJ to see if they can show one listing with two viable magazines (one steel and one Pmag,) but we will see what they say. I am certain that it would be a lot less confusing for everyone if they concede, but they may not. The other interesting thing is that they noted the caliber on the new listing as "multi." I highly suspect that this listing will be changing in the near future anyhow. Either way, you may want to get your order in now!

Going forward, we will ship the CA7 with a 10 round Pmag standard. The steel 10/20 magazine will be a substitute standard as the need may arise.

By the way, I have to mention that there are a lot of headaches trying to get this stuff retested, and it isn't cheap. We know that our firearms are not cheap to begin with especially since they are 100% American made. These additional costs were definitely the icing on the cake! Even so, the price is not going up for the CA7.
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Didn't the other one say multi or was that stamped on the lower? I don't have mine in front of me.
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They all say Multi on the lower receiver, but I was surprised that CADOJ didn't pull the caliber off of the barrel or the lab paperwork. I think it is preferable for the buyer to have Multi of any specific caliber anyhow.
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That's good because I'm building a 9mm upper for mine =D

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BTW, we will be having a few new SKUs coming soon, God and CADOJ willing. Two of them are in process.
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Some of you may notice that we got a second pistol on the roster today. The reason we had to do this was that our magazine supplier was not able to deliver reliably. Consequently, we retested the same gun with a Magpul 10 round Pmag. We had to do this by law since selling it with a different magazine was not legal unless we retested the gun.
You mention you have a few new SKUs coming and two in process. One is the 10rd pmag, can you say what the other SKU(s) will be?
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Why do I feel guys interested in this BOLT ACTION pistol might be thinking of turning it into a semi-auto?

And why do I think that it would be considered an ILLEGAL modification in CA?

And lastly, why do I think this pistol will be banned in CA at some point (soon)?

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Why do I feel guys interested in this BOLT ACTION pistol might be thinking of turning it into a semi-auto?

And why do I think that it would be considered an ILLEGAL modification in CA?

And lastly, why do I think this pistol will be banned in CA at some point (soon)?

In order:
1. Because they are.
2. Because you’re wrong.
3. They probably can’t unless they change the rostering criteria.
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You mention you have a few new SKUs coming and two in process. One is the 10rd pmag, can you say what the other SKU(s) will be?
The two SKUs are still coming. This was not considered a SKU change on our part. ...more of a running line change that required retesting. The lab has one pistol in for testing now.
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CADOJ changed the caliber listing yesterday afternoon. It no longer says "multi." (They probably realized it was a clerical error anyhow.) The roster still shows the two pistols with ambiguous descriptions. I will try to constructively work to clear that up with CADOJ.
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Why do I feel guys interested in this BOLT ACTION pistol might be thinking of turning it into a semi-auto?

And why do I think that it would be considered an ILLEGAL modification in CA?

And lastly, why do I think this pistol will be banned in CA at some point (soon)?


So much for the other pages in this thread. Let's just do this all over again. Reading comprehension must not be your forte.
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Haha exactly what I was thinking
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I bought the new CA7 that comes with a magpul 10 rnd mag today and I noticed on the DROS under the Firearm category it said Single Shot. Is this normally how it's categorized on the DROS or was it supposed to be bolt action repeater? Any info on this?
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Some of you may notice that we got a second pistol on the roster today. The reason we had to do this was that our magazine supplier was not able to deliver reliably. Consequently, we retested the same gun with a Magpul 10 round Pmag. We had to do this by law since selling it with a different magazine was not legal unless we retested the gun.

I am now working with CADOJ to see if they can show one listing with two viable magazines (one steel and one Pmag,) but we will see what they say. I am certain that it would be a lot less confusing for everyone if they concede, but they may not. The other interesting thing is that they noted the caliber on the new listing as "multi." I highly suspect that this listing will be changing in the near future anyhow. Either way, you may want to get your order in now!

Going forward, we will ship the CA7 with a 10 round Pmag standard. The steel 10/20 magazine will be a substitute standard as the need may arise.

By the way, I have to mention that there are a lot of headaches trying to get this stuff retested, and it isn't cheap. We know that our firearms are not cheap to begin with especially since they are 100% American made. These additional costs were definitely the icing on the cake! Even so, the price is not going up for the CA7.
do you have to provide a magazine?

maybe the simpler way would have been to sell this without a magazine included?

or does CADOJ demand a magazine be provided?
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