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Old 11-20-2015, 12:11 PM
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Anyone done a renewal at OC recently? Wondering how far out in advance to get the ball rolling (expires 4/16). Are they treating renewals the same as new applicants with regard to wait times? Used to be submitting application/supporting materials within 45 days would still allow for processing, training, etc., but now not so sure.

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Anyone done a renewal at OC recently? Wondering how far out in advance to get the ball rolling (expires 4/16). Are they treating renewals the same as new applicants with regard to wait times? Used to be submitting application/supporting materials within 45 days would still allow for processing, training, etc., but now not so sure.
When I went through my initial application and issuance, ending February this year, they advised a 90 day renewal process, and cautioned that no reminder will be sent. This was while "self defense" was in full swing, just before the reversal of Peruta.
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When I went through my initial application and issuance, ending February this year,

they advised a 90 day renewal process,

and cautioned that no reminder will be sent.

This was while "self defense" was in full swing, just before the reversal of Peruta.
This is also what I was told in May...
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Anyone done a renewal at OC recently? Wondering how far out in advance to get the ball rolling (expires 4/16). Are they treating renewals the same as new applicants with regard to wait times? Used to be submitting application/supporting materials within 45 days would still allow for processing, training, etc., but now not so sure.
Yeah, back in the day it was 45 days. They're now saying 90...likely because of the increased volume of applicants to deal with. We don't get LiveSanned again, so my guess is that we'll see our new card well before the 90 is up.
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Does anyone know if the refresher class must be done within that "90 day" period or can it be completed anytime prior?
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Start! Renewal Process 3 months prior to expiration

Documents needed:
Application
Print out CCW application
fill out all pages, including page 7 and sign all 3 pages
Copy of DL
Copy of BC or Passport
Good Cause statement
2 Utility bills

{If you have a business license or any other documents/credentials that might be needed please add them to your packet}


Mail (everything) to:
Attn: CCW Unit
320 N Flower St, Rm 100
Santa Ana Ca, 92702
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Email everything to ccwpermits@ocsd.org


*When your renewal is approved you’ll be notified by email to attend your 4 hour training class. Once you have completed your training, fax certificate to
714-834-5606 and someone from the CCW staff will contact you by email with your final appointment. If you have any questions please call 714-834-7229



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Initial training was good for 6 months from completion.
Does anyone have information in writing if the same is true of the 4 hour renewal training?
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Does anyone know if the refresher class must be done within that "90 day" period or can it be completed anytime prior?


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Initial training was good for 6 months from completion.

Does anyone have information in writing if the same is true of the 4 hour renewal training?

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Per Yolanda, it needs to be done within a couple of months of renewal.



With the first wave all renewing at once it will be busy. Since only four hours is needed, instructors will probably be cranking out more than one class a day if need be.

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Per Yolanda, it needs to be done within a couple of months of renewal.

The with the first wave all renewing at once it will be busy. Since only four hours is needed, instructors will probably be cranking out more than one class a day if need be.
I don't think the 4 hours includes the range time, AFAIK.
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Doheny,

Can you provide the link for your post #9. Thanks!

It makes it MUCH EASIER if we can just email everything versus appointment.
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Can you provide the link for your post #9. Thanks!

It makes it MUCH EASIER if we can just email everything versus appointment.
It's the real deal. I just got it from Yolanda. It's a Word doc so I'm not sure how to post it or provide a link so I cut and pasted.
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if someone can convert a Word doc to pdf and then post, I'll email to them.
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if someone can convert a Word doc to pdf and then post, I'll email to them.
PM me, I'll convert it to PDF and host it.

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Here you go guys, attached is the renewal process.

Thanks to Doheny for this.

I think this thread should be bookmarked at the top for ease of access.

SoCalPI, can you edit your thread title to reflect this post #?
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Thanks for all the info.
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Not really a reason to rush training as there are enough trainers available that it's not hard to get a class.

The hardest thing for some, and the area of concern will be going form SD to GC.
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Here you go guys, attached is the renewal process.

Thanks to Doheny for this.

I think this thread should be bookmarked at the top for ease of access.

SoCalPI, can you edit your thread title to reflect this post #?
can you upload the PDF again I'm not able to download it for some odd reason.
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can you upload the PDF again I'm not able to download it for some odd reason.

It's the same pdf as in the link I sent via PM.
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Just for discussion sake, is there an inclination for OCSD to more easily renew
permits to existing CCW holders who have stayed out of trouble for the two years they had their first permit?

I have GC ready but just used self defense the first go around.
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Just for discussion sake, is there an inclination for OCSD to more easily renew
permits to existing CCW holders who have stayed out of trouble for the two years they had their first permit?

I have GC ready but just used self defense the first go around.

You'll still need a GC other than SD.

We haven't heard of people getting denied, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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I can't see the PDF either.
The info in post #8 is a cut and paste of what's in the PDF, nothing more, nothing less.
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Strange. I guess when calguns crashed, it must have taken the file with it.

Here it is again.
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I hope everyone keeps the forum posted about how renewals go. My concern is that they green light people now and then down the road decide not to, I suppose it's unlikely though so long as nothing changes with the applicant.
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I hope everyone keeps the forum posted about how renewals go. My concern is that they green light people now and then down the road decide not to, I suppose it's unlikely though so long as nothing changes with the applicant.

People are constantly getting renewed; we haven't heard of anyone not getting a renewal. There's no reason a current holder won't be renewed unless they just can't articulate a good cause.

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Oh great, so do they do an interview again or do you just send in all your documents and wait ?
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Oh great, so do they do an interview again or do you just send in all your documents and wait ?
Good question, my guess is no interview or residency check. Livescan? Maybe.
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No LiveScan. Once you get LiveScanned the first time they are notified of any subsequent arrests you're involved in.
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...is it taboo to ask other members on this thread what flies as acceptable supplemental good cause in addition to self defense?

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There's another site that thinks it's a big deal, but I don't, personally. If someone wants to tell you either in the thread or via PM, great. If not, that's understandable too.

There used to be a train of thought that your GC was unique and if anyone else had one similar something was amiss. That's really not the case now with the sheriff issuing more liberally. Plus, if a GC is good enough for one person, there is no reason it shouldn't be good enough for someone else.

With that said, I'm not saying we should all use the same good cause. OCSD can still ask for proof or additional verification if they want to. It's just that giving a person an ideal what you used could help him form his or give him ideals that will work for him.
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There's another site that thinks it's a big deal, but I don't, personally. If someone wants to tell you either in the thread or via PM, great. If not, that's understandable too.

There used to be a train of thought that your GC was unique and if anyone else had one similar something was amiss. That's really not the case now with the sheriff issuing more liberally. Plus, if a GC is good enough for one person, there is no reason it shouldn't be good enough for someone else.

With that said, I'm not saying we should all use the same good cause. OCSD can still ask for proof or additional verification if they want to. It's just that giving a person an ideal what you used could help him form his or give him ideals that will work for him.
I'm just curious as to what constitutes "good enough" or what doesn't work for supplemental good cause.

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Literally, anything. Just articulate why you need a CCW. It really isn't hard. A few sentences is good enough.

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This.

Walk your dog at night or in the outback and worried about two or four legged creatures? Travel to remote places where LE response is slow? Concerned about increase in crime and violent attacks?

They want more than just the two words they were accepting before (self defense/personal defense.) If you can scratch out a few sentences for a couple of reasons you'll be good.
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Walk your dog at night or in the outback and worried about two or four legged creatures? Travel to remote places where LE response is slow? Concerned about increase in crime and violent attacks?

They want more than just the two words they were accepting before (self defense/personal defense.) If you can scratch out a few sentences for a couple of reasons you'll be good.
Should supporting paperwork still be included with a short reason for self defense? Like including timesheets for late night shifts?
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Should supporting paperwork still be included with a short reason for self defense? Like including timesheets for late night shifts?
I wouldn't worry about it unless they asked...no reason to muddy the waters. Supporting paperwork is usually asked for when people say they make large deposits or they carry at/because of work.
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I just submitted my renewal application, (instructions sent from OCSD), and was told to go do my 4 hours training asap & to email in the certificate.
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