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Old 05-23-2019, 4:38 PM
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Default GI vs. Full length guide rod?

I have a loaded speingfield 1911, i had a GI before with the regular OG guide rod and barrel plug.

If i swapped my full length guide rod on my new loaded springfield 1911 to a GI style guide rod will there be any issues?
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No. The 1911 is designed to run correctly with the GI style guide rod.
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Old 05-23-2019, 4:51 PM
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You’ll be ok, every 1911 I’ve bought with a FLGR has been switched to a GI. Often before I’ve even fired it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 4:56 PM
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Swap the spring plug also and you are good to go.
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Old 05-23-2019, 4:59 PM
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Thanks i just MidwayUSA a Wilson Combat guide rod and barrel end plug
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There really is no advantage to a FLGR unless you plan on swapping uppers...I suppose they are a bit 'slicker' feeling, but functionally there isn't much of a difference.
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I can use factory spring?
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Old 05-23-2019, 5:04 PM
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^^Yes.
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Old 05-23-2019, 5:39 PM
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No. The 1911 is designed to run correctly with the GI style guide rod.
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Old 05-23-2019, 5:42 PM
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Will the flgr fail? I hear they loosen up?
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Will the flgr fail? I hear they loosen up?
If 2 piece, yes, it could. If one piece, nothing to come loose
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Old 05-23-2019, 6:24 PM
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I have a SA Loaded as well. I run the 2 piece guide rod and it functions fine with it as set up from the factory. No need to change it. Why change it?
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I hate to carry an allen wrench around to disassemble it.
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I converted mine to standard. Love it. Hated the full length guide rod when cleaning came.
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I have a SA Loaded as well. I run the 2 piece guide rod and it functions fine with it as set up from the factory. No need to change it. Why change it?
There are SA Loadeds that use the G.I. guide rod and plug, such as the MC Operator. I own both a Parkerized Loaded that had the 2-pc stainless FLGR and an MC Operator. I like the guide rod setup on the MCO so I called Springfield and had them send me a G.I. guide rod and plug, two standard MSH, two standard hammer spring setups and two recoil springs for these guns.

Now they're twins (with the exception of the finish and the half-rail).
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I noticed the 2-piece FLGR on my Loaded becomes loose after a lengthy range session.
Swapped it out with the G.I. guide rod and couldn't be more satisfied.
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I HATE the 2 piece flgr. But I do like the 1 piece flgr. Nothing wrong with the gi. I just like the smoother action of the full length and its super cheap to pick up a 1 piece.
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I hate to carry an allen wrench around to disassemble it.
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I have a SA Loaded as well. I run the 2 piece guide rod and it functions fine with it as set up from the factory. No need to change it. Why change it?
Good question.

The only reason is because everyone thinks the grass is greener on rhe other side of the fence. Some people buy 1911s that come with the GI rod. Then they go buy a full length one. Oh, that adds weight upfront for tacticoolness.
And the folks who buy the ones with a full length guid rod decide to go full authentic. So they go buy a GI rod.

It makes absolutely no difference in the operation of the 1911. Go with what ever style that makes you happy.
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Old 05-23-2019, 8:51 PM
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I hate to carry an allen wrench around to disassemble it.
A Wilson Combat full-length guide rod is the answer: https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Full-Le...oductinfo/25G/

I have one in every 1911 I own.
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A Wilson Combat full-length guide rod is the answer: https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Full-Le...oductinfo/25G/

I have one in every 1911 I own.
Get a generic Klonimus. It's exactly the same as a WC. I have both. You literally can not tell the difference.
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OP, I think you will find a good number of 1911 owners, both here and 1911 forums, stay with or eventually transition to the GI style.
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Full length guide rod looks cool , the performance is the same
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Good question.

The only reason is because everyone thinks the grass is greener on rhe other side of the fence. Some people buy 1911s that come with the GI rod. Then they go buy a full length one. Oh, that adds weight upfront for tacticoolness.
And the folks who buy the ones with a full length guid rod decide to go full authentic. So they go buy a GI rod.

It makes absolutely no difference in the operation of the 1911. Go with what ever style that makes you happy.
Best response yet... probably close to 3000 rounds through my SA loaded the 2 piece guide rod hasn’t came loose once.
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How many GIs and Marines who took care of 1911 WW2 Business and didn't have a wecha-ma-doodle at hand?
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Old 05-24-2019, 7:08 AM
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Thanks guys
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Old 05-24-2019, 8:08 AM
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I have a SA Loaded as well. I run the 2 piece guide rod and it functions fine with it as set up from the factory. No need to change it. Why change it?
Mine came apart every time it was used. That is a scary thing. I replaced mine with the one piece.

Piece of mind is why. And personal safety.
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I use both styles, stay away from two piece versions. Now a flat wire recoil spring and full length guide rod that seems to actually have some promise.
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In my opinion the FLGR is useful for tuned reloads or when more consistency in feeding is required. This is because the spring is working in a more uniform way each shot as is travels along the rod. Without the FLGR the spring can bend/flex in an inconsistent manner slightly changing the force it can apply in the direction of slide travel.

its the same reason M1A shooters switch the a new spring guide
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:05 AM
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I just called SA, i spoke with an attractive sounding voice male. I asked him if I swapped out my flgr to GI style will there
Be any reliablility issues? His response was, “not at all.”

I just wanted to share, such great customer service.
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I just called SA, i spoke with an attractive sounding voice male. I asked him if I swapped out my flgr to GI style will there
Be any reliablility issues? His response was, “not at all.”

I just wanted to share, such great customer service.
An... attractive sounding voice male? Well that’s just the cherry on top
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I just wanted to share, such great customer service.
Indeed. My experience with SA as well. I bought a used 1911 loaded that needed a new barrel and trigger work. They paid for shipping and did the work for free.
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I have nine (9) 1911 pistols, three with GI set up and six with one-piece FLGR. All work great, no issues either way. If you're going to go the FLGR route, I suggest the Wilson one-piece.
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Sgt. I have flgr i am going Gi style. An old man like myself likes old School.

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GI Plug.

Then you can do the old school press check (from a condition 4 gun out of the safe)
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If JMB intended the 1911 to have a FLGR, he would've built it with one.
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I just called SA, i spoke with an attractive sounding voice male. I asked him if I swapped out my flgr to GI style will there
Be any reliablility issues? His response was, “not at all.”

I just wanted to share, such great customer service.
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GI Plug.

Then you can do the old school press check (from a condition 4 gun out of the safe)
Beat me to it.

All these action movies with guys racking the slide when they're about to face the bad guy. If it were me doing that you would see a fresh cartridge come out on to the ground.

The more realistic move, never seen on screen, is the super secret operator flipping off the safety.

But ultimate bonus points goes to the director who has his action star draw his weapon and thumb the safety off and quickly point at the doorway in the direction of the sound with his trigger finger forward out of the trigger guard, in the creepy industrial building filled with bad guys, and then presses the front of the slide with the GI guide rod with the forefinger of his free hand pushing the slide back just enough for him to press his trigger finger into the ejection port, confirm a round is there, and let the slide return to battery -- all the while never taking his eyes off his sights and the doorway.

That move alone would earn that flick a place in the action movie hall of fame.
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I have guns with both, the one piece FLGR and the GI guide rod. No problems with either.

I've never understood the reason for a 2 piece FLGR beyond marketing.
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My Ruger has a GI, my Rock has a FLGR. I see no difference in shooting, or maintenance.

And no "special" tool to strip the RIA.
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