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Old 05-21-2019, 8:33 AM
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Anyone recognize this rifle? It’s been plaguing me because I can’t tell what it is or was. That rear sight looks unique. Percussion lock. 21” long. Strange for sure.





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Old 05-21-2019, 9:08 AM
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I don’t know....

First guess was pirate assault weapon.

Second guess was that it looks like an older version of a cavalry carbine like the Civil War era Austrian ones shown on this website.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/civilwa...010webcat.html

It would be a good coach or highwayman’s gun. ???

Good luck with your search...
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Old 05-21-2019, 9:09 AM
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I don’t know. First guess was pirate assault weapon.

Second guess was that it looks like an older version of a cavalry carbine like the Civil War era Austrian ones shown on this website.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/civilwa...010webcat.html

Good luck with your search...


I kind of that the thought that it could be some sort of naval gun because it is so short. Or maybe some kind of coach gun?


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Looks like a sawed-off shotgun. Is it a rifled barrel? Any barrel markings? Looks big bore from the pics.
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A blunderbuss?
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:06 AM
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Looks like a sawed-off shotgun. Is it a rifled barrel? Any barrel markings? Looks big bore from the pics.


I haven’t seen it in person yet. I have a few more pictures but when I do i can answer those two questions.


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I don’t know....

First guess was pirate assault weapon.

Second guess was that it looks like an older version of a cavalry carbine like the Civil War era Austrian ones shown on this website.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/civilwa...010webcat.html

It would be a good coach or highwayman’s gun. ???

Good luck with your search...
Those are fine and desirable weapons and distinguishable by the cavalry sling swivels.



Think the OP's is a civilian one off - probably a poaching gun, able to be slipped inside your coat, but accurate enough for game.
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Early Bubba'd shotgun - ?
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:31 AM
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NFA SBR doesn’t apply to antiques with “primitive ignition systems”


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NFA SBR doesn’t apply to antiques with “primitive ignition systems”


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A blunderbuss?
First thing that came to my mind.
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First thing that came to my mind.


Do blundersbusses have belled out muzzles or is that not a requirement?


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That doesn't look like a blunderbuss. Too small. Cant help with info, but interesting piece!

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Perhaps it is a rifle that had a bulged barrel that was cut off to a really short barrel from behind the bulged damaged area. That made it necessary to add a new rear sight further back than normal.
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19th century bubba job?
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Ok. A little more information. It has about a .36 caliber rifled barrel. The lock plate is engraved with Warren & Steel Albany. It definitely needs a little gunsmithing work as the slot with the barrel wedge is missing but you can see where it was. Interesting little rifle.... I’ll post some more pictures as soon as I can.


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