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Are there any 5.56 rounds made specifically for AR pistols or SBRs?
Been hearing and reading how loud the AR pistol is. Some attribute it to the short barrel and incomplete powder burning for ammo made for 16"+ barrels. Some also say the loss of muzzle velocity makes the round useless out of a <14" barrel, etc.
Is there any 5.56x45 ammo made specifically for short barrelled rifles?
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Military doesn't use 10.5, at least not outside of perhaps something in a special ops armory
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There are no special ammo loadings that'll fix the noise/concussion. Conversion kit to run 22lr is the answer here in C.A., or move to a silencer friendly state. Sent using a long string and 2 used soup cans
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I thought I read somewhere that the US military will be moving up to 16" barrels from 14.5". Can't find it now. The M27/IAR has a 16.5" barrel. |
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70gr tsx and the 50gr Vmax are the standards for SBR performance as far as I am aware. Look up what people run in their Mk18 clones and HK416 clones as well as what the special forces actually use. I personally would opt for the 70gr just to get the extra weight at slower speeds.
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I thought noise and a huge fireball was part of the appeal of an AR pistol??
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...-sbr-box-of-20 https://www.targetsportsusa.com/horn...5.aspx#reviews |
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That's the only reason I like my rifle caliber pistols! Energy is not there, but obnoxiously fun noise making is.
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If you're active or retired military/LE you can get sbr TAP:
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/167785 |
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I've often wondered what good does an SBR do if you add in the extra length of the suppressor? I suppose it is better than a 16" barrel with a suppressor.
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I have a 10.5 in 300 Blk. I installed a Kinetic Tech brake with there concussion redirector sleeve and it makes a work of difference. My brother has a 10.5 w/5.56 barrel without one and it down right sucks standing anywhere near him at the range.
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OP here. Thanks for all the useful answers. It sounds like 5.56 AR pistols with short barrels can be made almost as capable as 5.56 rifles with right ammo.
With the right optic and the right ammo, why can't SBRs be used for long range? Switching the topic a bit to remove the pistol brace variable from the conversation.
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I use a 10.5 with kak flash can. Works great. 8 have no issue banging the gongs at 250/290 yds using 55gr
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People say lots of things . I can shoot a AR Pistol 7.5 ot 10.5 as good as a 16 inch . Optics beng the same at 100 yards . I Generally run Tula for screwing around and at the range. Never a problem . But I would have no issues Using it as a Self Defense Firearm if needed. I also Run a Pws Cab Flash hider/Muzzle Break it takes a lot of the Crack out of the Bang . Kind of hard to explain but it definitely takes the Volume down from the Bangle of any AR .
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If you want to shoot sbr's at long range, stick a Blackout upper on there. Supersonic 190's also go 500, but when it arrives it's with 190 grains of .30 caliber, not 75 grains of .22. |
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And would Prefer it . Over a Pistol or Rifle. In a Free state . My AR or AK Pistol would be my damn near go everywhere gun. Camping ,Boating , Fishing , Trunk and H.d.
I'd like to build A AR in 10 mm |
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Thanks, I know I need to buy now. gun pro deals has the YHM TURBO for $291 right now too.
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(1) The Daniel Defense MK18 features the railed forend Daniel Defense currently provides to USSOCOM --and-- (2) a 10.3” Cold Hammer Forged Barrel This does not say that the barrel is provided to USSOCOM, only the railed forend. It is possible that they also sell the barrel to them, but the posted sentence does not say that. |
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Haven't seen any awesome prices on a 7.62 can, I wouldn't mind finding one as I do like the idea of a can I can use on my AK and AR SBR's
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