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You might be able to live off post with your family while at MOS school. If you do, remember, you'll be getting up at 3am to make it on time to your PT before class. You'll probably get home around 8pm. Now, if you "DO" manage to get to have your family with you while in MOS school it's going to be totally on you to find housing. Guess when you get to do it? On your own time. Guess what the business hours are of rental offices for housing? They sure as hell aren't Marine hours. If you don't have a car then you are screwed, but you can't drive it. The Army didn't even let enlisted trainees drive. You're wife have to drive. Not having a kid and wife at the time I was in enlisted training I can't imagine the additional stress you might be incurring. Right? It's not like you can simply walk to your barracks and crash, or study at the end of the day. You'll have a huge distraction. HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While all your peers around you will have the ability to 100% focus, or just step away from formation and sleep and recharge for the next day. Your wife is probably not going to understand the amount of bull sht you have to deal with for being the slightest bit late for anything, and why the smallest things are such a big deal. *********** My son was born while I was in Officer MOS school. I brought my wife out with me a few months after I got there. I had to get civilian housing off post because on post stuff wasn't for temporary housing. I had the luxury of being an officer at that time. So my weekends were mine, and I had a car I was allowed to drive around. I narrowly was able to find a place with weekend business hours and squeezed in all the paperwork, and credit checks to actually be allowed to rent an apartment. THEN I had to find a place to rent furniture. But guess what, guess when THEIR business hours are, and when they will deliver???? Yep, guess where you will be during the weekdays, and they don't deliver on weekends. So you'll have to figure that out as well. I'm not saying it's impossible. I did it. I was an officer though, and I think I barely pulled it off. It was my entire focus of getting her out there, and doing all the things I needed to do to be allowed to be there for his birth. Class work took a back seat so long as I passed the Army Standard. I was lucky. He was born in the final two weeks. So I only really had one final project on my back, and then we coasted from there. But she wasn't really happy. If you are enlisted, your wife will have to do all the leg work. PERIOD. You're not going to have the time or freedom to work it. ************** If you are active duty you might get access to family resources for housing help. If you are reserve your a sht out of luck.
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Thanks Snoopy47, you have been consistently offering good advice and experience on here. A lot to think about but I'm sure I can work things out whichever way i decide to go and what whatever I decide to do.
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You should be able to hit the pay phone booth during MCT (after basic, before MOS school) when you aren't out in the field. You will not be allowed to live off base during your MOS school. You will not be allowed to drive, or even enter a private vehicle while in MOS school.
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Not intending to live off base, just want to hurry up and go home by that time.
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You probably are going to have an moment where the Drills lower the stress levels a notch, and a brief pow-wow with your training company where everyone introduces themselves and shares. If you hold back you'll convey to others that you are "That Guy".
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By the time I was 25, I had one year left of the second 3 year enlistment. When I was 26, I got out because of my wife and baby girl. At 19 when I went in, I had no responsibilities except to myself and my country. The military is hard on a family relationship. If my son, now with a wife and son asked me what I thought, I would say, think long and hard.
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Also, some of the MOS structures were bad enough that it was years before the cutting scores opened up from closed. When they did, it was only for one month to let one individual promote. Then they closed off the cutting scores again. A good resource for checking this would be through the cutting scores listed on manpower.usmc.mil. It would be a shame for your inability to promote to whittle down and away at your motivation to serve your country. |
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From where you sit (without access to promotion data) A good indicator of which scores are easy to promote are those MOS's with bonuses have easier promotion thresholds than those without bonuses.
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Short answer: don’t do it.
I wouldn’t.
Served 8 years in the military, best days of my life. But I was single, and times were very different back then (1980’s). With a wife & small children I’d never do it, and certainly not in these times. We live in a very unstable era, one in which the social order is breaking down, and the State itself is losing legitimacy. Ordinary life is giving way to chaos and disorder. Risk is increasing. I’d advise to keep loved ones, close, and never leave them. Just too dangerous now, both at home and abroad. Just my .02 cents, FWIW. |
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Yea i hate to break it to you but anything glamorous in the military translates to jack in the mil. I had a POG MOS and I came out better because of it mind you depending on where you are stationed is what is going to make or break the Corp for you. I suggest since you have a kid on the way to try and stay local. (a hard learned lesson my marriage could have survived if i had been stationed in Cali. but I can never say no to free overseas homestays.)
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Starbucks is a death sentence. High BP and high glucose levels are common with Starbucks not to mention caffeine. Any traffic police officer is equal to an E4 in the military. I was an E7 in charge of 2 CHP SGTs when they were activated. I told them their civilian police job doesn’t mean **** in the real military. And they were both E5s in service. I do agree with you on family. Family is always first and the US Navy and US Coast Guard has put family first as of 2015. He can easily choose a different service where he can do office work. Last edited by Endless; 08-01-2018 at 6:38 PM.. |
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The military and law enforcement are both vital aspects of the safety and quality of life we enjoy in the United States. Either one is an honorable profession. I'm also interested in hearing if the OP has made a decision. I'm in the camp that believes his responsibility is to his family now, and enlisting this late in life with so many responsibilities already on his shoulders is not a good decision. |
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After all this time the OP must have made a decision one way or the other. There was another similar thread a while back where some dude hemmed and hawed over enlisting for like 2 years. All kinds of info and guidance was given but I don't know if he ever took the plunge.
I was on the verge of enlistment in the USAF when I was about 19 and had already taken the ASVAB and went far into the process. I backed out for reasons I can't remember now and that was a blunder. Big time. I was older than the OP when I enlisted in the USAR. I was single though and had a job, which I took leave from for about 6 months for BCT+AIT+another school. All of the above info is true regarding the childlike way soldiers are viewed as while new and of lower rank. As a mid-late 20's BCT graduate, I chuckled that I could not leave post without an "Adult Guardian" to sign me out. I got signed out by another soldier's parents. Our subsequent trip to Olive Garden followed by some shopping at Wal Mart were nearly a religious experience. It was exciting to buy some CD's and junk food, I tell ya. |
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Not being LE, but military, I presume both are much the same in that there are LEOs from Los Altos, CA sitting comfortably at Starbucks just like a FOBbit, and those that are L.A. SWAT ready to kick the doors in of a gang house similar to an Alpha Team ready to hit a HVT somewhere in Afghanistan.
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There are plenty of others though. So I'll let them know they too can enlist with a degree in hand as an E4, and end up Company Commander inside of 6 years (before their first enlistment contract is even up). Quote:
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Basic Training was only 9 weeks (not even one fiscal quarter) and to the kids it seems like eternity. To the point kids were smuggling in their cell phones and getting Article 15's or kicked out because of it. I'm thinking, ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I might see my parents once a year during the holidays. Why do you have to talk to them every night. Then there was the Candy in MRE's (like MM's and Skittles). If it was in the MRE it was allowed. Being 38 y/o I didn't need that stuff. I didn't even use it to barter with others. I just held it up, and said who wants it, and threw it in the direction of the first hand to go up, and watched the Piranhas swarm.
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Hello all, thanks for checking in.
I DID NOT go. I am home and just had my first child. Left my 9-5 into real estate sales and money is no longer an issue as I have been doing alright, it is California. Anyways - the guard is crossing my mind and i actually spoke to a sgt that was having a child as well and he did make sure to mention they are more "family friendly". My brother just got accepted into the Sac Sheriffs academy scheduled to grad in June so that was exciting and I am very proud of him.
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