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Old 05-06-2017, 2:30 PM
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Any lead on cheaper targets? So far $60 for a 12in gong

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Interested as well. Its the hanger systems that last boyscout rigged up from home depot that normally cost the most. Normally sourcing from a local fabricator will save you the insane shipping prices of the plates

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Industrial Metal Supply mfgs and sells ar500 targets. I am puuting together a 22 rifle small bore pistol ar500 targets area at our private range in Lancaster looking for silhouette and gong targets. Something like Oaktree.

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Seems expensive for a flat piece of metal. $60+ for a 12" diameter piece at Amazon. And Laser cut? That's more expensive than water jet...

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$50 here. Plus shipping though.
http://www.ar500-targets.com/mobile/...-AR500-TARGETS

Or a 10" with a stand for $85
http://www.ar500-targets.com/mobile/...STARTER-KIT-10

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$50 here. Plus shipping though.
http://www.ar500-targets.com/mobile/...-AR500-TARGETS

Or a 10" with a stand for $85
http://www.ar500-targets.com/mobile/...STARTER-KIT-10

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They have free shipping. Just use coupon code Free
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$37 http://www.ebay.com/itm/252806464655...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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I got some quality steel from GASteel.llc from eBay. They manufacture it in TX.
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ShootingTargets7 is who I use and their stuff has been great.
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My strongest i have is 762x54r

Can it take this? At 100yrd

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How thick? 1/4? no.
3/8? you'll beat it up with the mild steel core and ruin it for closer handgun shoots if that matters. Move it out.
1/2? yeah shoot it
let her swing also and hang it slanted as probably will be in the instructions.....

I also use milder steel railroad tie plates.
keep in mind when I did shoot those with the mosin surplus at 100yds ..... the jacket of the bullet would at times come all the way back to the firing line.
Probably not real dangerous but un-nerving to some as you can often hear it coming.
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I just edited my post as I had my math backwards.
3/8 with surplus mosin ammo I would not.
I also use mine for close pistol shooting and that is why.
If you don't use them for close pistol and don't mind dinging it up then go ahead ... but personally I'd move them out at 150 at least...200yds better yet.
Stuff ain't cheap and I not really looking to ruin mine and not really meant for steel core.
Or try the non steel core commercial loads
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I got a bunch of steel off eBay when I got eBay coupons.

I'd recommend them, but I haven't been able to shoot em yet
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Speed is what kills a steel target. AR500 steel is rated at 3000 fps. A lot of 55 gr .223 rounds, for example, are 3200 fps at the muzzle. That means you need to put the target far enough away to allow the round to drop below 3000 fps at impact. If your 7.62 x 54 round is under 3000 fps, you should be good to go...assuming this is quality AR500 steel...and also that you're being generally safe and allowing enough distance for spatter...50 yards is my minimum distance for shooting rifle rounds at steel but I generally feel better at 75 yards or further. It should go without saying that EVERYONE on the range should be wearing safety glasses...even those who are not shooting.

Also, these targets and stands are excellent. Wonderfully portable and simple to stow and setup. Great on uneven ground. Not exactly cheap though but not horrible. Figure out the time and cost you would put into making a stand yourself and see if you can justify this expense. Also note that they used to have a 15% discount code. Try "nutnfancy15" and see if it works. You might get lucky.

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I just edited my post as I had my math backwards.
3/8 with surplus mosin ammo I would not.
I also use mine for close pistol shooting and that is why.
If you don't use them for close pistol and don't mind dinging it up then go ahead ... but personally I'd move them out at 150 at least...200yds better yet.
Stuff ain't cheap and I not really looking to ruin mine and not really meant for steel core.
Or try the non steel core commercial loads
I have a bunch of tulammo

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Speed is what kills a steel target. AR500 steel is rated at 3000 fps. A lot of 55 gr .223 rounds, for example, are 3200 fps at the muzzle. That means you need to put the target far enough away to allow the round to drop below 3000 fps at impact. If your 7.62 x 54 round is under 3000 fps, you should be good to go...assuming this is quality AR500 steel...and also that you're being generally safe and allowing enough distance for spatter...50 yards is my minimum distance for shooting rifle rounds at steel but I generally feel better at 75 yards or further. It should go without saying that EVERYONE on the range should be wearing safety glasses...even those who are not shooting.

Also, these targets and stands are excellent. Wonderfully portable and simple to stow and setup. Great on uneven ground. Not exactly cheap though but not horrible. Figure out the time and cost you would put into making a stand yourself and see if you can justify this expense. Also note that they used to have a 15% discount code. Try "nutnfancy15" and see if it works. You might get lucky.

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I will use wolf but not tula but tula is not steel core. Not a tula fan is all. Target won't care.
100yds should be good , but if you do notice something back it to 150.
Splurge and go 1/2 inch
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I always recommend 1/2 inch steel. You never know when someone at the range shoots your steel or if you bring a friend with higher caliber.
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I will use wolf but not tula but tula is not steel core. Not a tula fan is all. Target won't care.
100yds should be good , but if you do notice something back it to 150.
Splurge and go 1/2 inch
I got tons of tula when there was a sale and a shop closing down

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Should i be worried about splatter even if i angle them down ward?

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Plenty of threads on people buying "ar500" and it chipping, pitting and denting....

Cry one and buy once....


Steel presents an increase for fires.... clear an appropriate area... have shovelsmand fire extinguishers on hand...

Ricochets happen... have a propper target or target stand....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

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^^^as lead is bouncing around and flying back. Why bother with the steal in the indoor range.

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I just picked up 13- 3" ar500 gongs for 40 bucks watch the forums 1/2" 3/8" 1/4"
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Steel is not scary

I'm not sure what this video is supposed to show/prove. This shooter is shooting pistol rounds out of an AR. Put the video at full screen and slow it down and you'll see. It damn sure isn't .223/.556. Use rifle rounds at this range and steel gets all kind of scary. Steel isn't scary when treated appropriately. Disrespect it and it can become scary...like a lot of things in life.
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I'm not sure what this video is supposed to show/prove. This shooter is shooting pistol rounds out of an AR. Put the video at full screen and slow it down and you'll see. It damn sure isn't .223/.556. Use rifle rounds at this range and steel gets all kind of scary. Steel isn't scary when treated appropriately. Disrespect it and it can become scary...like a lot of things in life.
It is supposed to show that it is fun to shoot steel.
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Oh I agree its far more fun with steel. But I've had spalljng from 22 to 45s bounce back and get me in the face and neck. Especially when other shooters are angled farther off to the sides. So when guys are using carbines from 10 yards away its kind of ridiculous.

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I just downloaded some pics I want to make some flipping/spinning targets for the rimfire and pistol shooters. I picked up 13 3 inch ar500 plates from a calgunner today. I will weld up some ez to assemble stands this week. We are putting in a shooting range at our club in AV. I want something easily erected and ez to maintain. We will have 12 firing points to 200 yards.

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I'm so glad that im also a welder and cut/make my own targets. AR500 is completely and totally unnecessary (not to mention a waste of money) if shooting HANDGUN rounds in: .22LR, .32ACP, 9mm, 38spl, .40, 10mm, .45ACP, .38Super, .357mag and .44spl ....AND.... using 3/8" minimum thickness mild steel that's free floating (swinging, hanging etc...). .44magnum and larger may dent the 3/8", depending on the distance you shoot. In that case, go 1/2" thickness if need be, or then AR500. But how many of us routinely shoot .44magnum routinely???

1/4" thick steel can be used exclusively for rimfire 22's and ..25ACP, but 3/8" is perfect and 1/4th the cost of AR500.

Rifles, well that's a different story where AR500 is better.
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I'm so glad that im also a welder and cut/make my own targets. AR500 is completely and totally unnecessary (not to mention a waste of money) if shooting HANDGUN rounds in: .22LR, .32ACP, 9mm, 38spl, .40, 10mm, .45ACP, .38Super, .357mag and .44spl ....AND.... using 3/8" minimum thickness mild steel that's free floating (swinging, hanging etc...). .44magnum and larger may dent the 3/8", depending on the distance you shoot. In that case, go 1/2" thickness if need be, or then AR500. But how many of us routinely shoot .44magnum routinely???

1/4" thick steel can be used exclusively for rimfire 22's and ..25ACP, but 3/8" is perfect and 1/4th the cost of AR500.

Rifles, well that's a different story where AR500 is better.
I also make my handgun dueling trees. There is a scrap metal yard in my area that always has a pile of 1/4" mild steel rounds between 5" and 8" in diameter. The precut rounds save me time and cost to fabricate a tree. Last time I bought a stack of rounds I paid .60 a pound which their price for scrap steel...

The rounds are dirt cheap and they stand up reasonably well to 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP hits. The hits will deform the rounds so when they get to buggered up, I toss them. 3/8" would be ideal...

223/556 on up will make those mild steel rounds look like swiss cheese in no time...
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1/2" steel gets destroyed by my 7.62x39 steel ammo. It ruins everything I shoot it at.

Someone left a 1" thick oil pipe fitting cap on a stand out in the desert. That ammo made a mess of it. I got 1/2" deep holes in it. It must have weighted a hundred pounds.
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1/2" steel gets destroyed by my 7.62x39 steel ammo. It ruins everything I shoot it at.

Someone left a 1" thick oil pipe fitting cap on a stand out in the desert. That ammo made a mess of it. I got 1/2" deep holes in it. It must have weighted a hundred pounds.
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