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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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What they need to do is make it so information gained via FOIA is only usable for personal use, not public. Papers, tv, etc cannot show it. Dumbwad that printed the list should have been able to get in trouble for printing it. They didnt, just pissed off a bunch of folks. The NCJ release that is. |
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I wonder if these idiots will be wasting tax payers' money sending letters to car buyers telling them not to use their cars to run over people, pick up prostitutes, go over the speed limits, engage in driveby shootings, street racing, paint them pink and other crimes against humanity?
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Hi all,
I definitely didn't expect my first post here to be on this topic! I received one of these letters yesterday. Has anyone received a response from Anne Tremblay yet? I'm debating what I can and should do if anything... |
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I spoke with her for 15 minutes the other day. Very nice. Towing the party line that the RAND report shows this letter does some good and that the buyer's info is protected by state and federal laws. She also said the letter is obviously not intended for an educated, concerned citizen like myself.
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I DROS'd last week and I still haven't seen a letter and I live in the Devonshire PD area. I noticed the letter has language regarding lease's. I own the residence(ok bank does for now) so I wonder if they they are only sending these letters to renters?
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People don't seem to understand that any document with their name on it makes it theirs.
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Has anyone from CGF responded to this? It's hard to flip through pages of responses (wish search could limit the list to SGF responderes for instance)?
More importantly, has CGF decided this worth is not worth responding to formally (legally) and we now in the territory of the local PD regarding crime: "we don't respond to thefts since we have far more important crimes overwhelming us at this time" overload? Every day another reason to move out of this insane state.
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It is interesting to note that this letter comes from Carmen Trutanich, L.A. city attorney, who was elected with the help of none other than the Calguns foundation. Here is the original thread in which Bill asks people here to support Mr. Trutanich: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=122678
To quote Bill: "Nuch is Chuck Michel's (the "T" of TMLLP fame) law partner, so Nuch's beliefs should be pretty obvious to most of us here" How times changes ... |
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Thank you for your concern
I would simply send her a nice letter thanking her for her concern.
I would then add that her approach as defined in her letter has inspired me to purchase another gun next week. Thank you Anne, I always wanted an AR-15! Best Regards John Q Public |
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Boy I am glad I got the hell out of that state.
If we don't get off our hind ends in WA we will end up in the same boat.
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Actually what's causing the problem in WA is the continued import of Californians. Oregon has become openly hostile to people with CA license plates. Half the Oregonians would be happy to nuke the Californian enclave of Bend, OR if it would solve their Californian problem.
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More like someone in the City of Los Angeles is unlawfully accessing CLETS/AFS for an illegal purpose. Last time I looked, that was the kind of thing peace officers and dispatchers are criminally prosecuted for.
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After reading it, with so many REAL assaults on our 2nd Amendment rights and freedoms in this state from our Dem-fascist legislature, I find this of very little, if any, concern. In fact it may dissuade straw purchasers from picking up the weapon, and does help inform folks who are not up on the law. I'm FAR more concerned with the new anti-gun bill being pushed, including trying to ban the bullet button again, which basically would kill the AR in CA IMHO. |
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Did I read that letter right? It's a crime to transfer a firearm to any person without DROS. It tries to scare you hoping you don't know the law. For a private transfer, you don't need to go through DROS. Well, but it says "with a few exceptions"..., that's to cover their butts in case someone stands up and tells they're wrong. And the term firearm? It doesn't include C&R or any vintage guns.
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I'm sure it's 90% on Calguns but I'm not so sure it's 90% with the general public. there are a lot of clueless gun owners.
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WTF is all I can say
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Non-handgun transfer between immediate family member.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...Family_Members |
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What is the NRA and their LAWYERS, the gun manufacturers, the bullet manufactuers, etc doing to prevent this legislation from proceeding? I would hope with the money being contributed we have some smart Lawyers bringing this up as unconstitutional on several levels not just the 2nd Amendment, this is discriminatory on multiple levels, discriminatory on a PROHIBITED BASIS which is belive is against FEDERAL LAW. If we allow the politicians to create whatever laws they want and then it is up to us to challenge these laws in court, then the system is completely broken.
The liberal law makers are always making law abiding people responsible for the actions of criminals. Criminal steals your car and has a high speed chase, you can be held liable. Now it's guns, we can be held liable for a criminal stealing them and using them? We must carry liability insurance for them? I see many people posting (including myself) but I would like some clear direction as to what action we can take besides writing or phoning representatives, that's a joke really. We have to have significant participation with signatures in an effort to block these actions. Additionally, we need to hit the politicians where it counts, voting them out next time around. I also want to see Law Enforcement backing the people of this state in our right to own, no new laws need be created, enforce the ones we have. If LE is siding with the politicians, they are siding to limit our freedoms and our personal protection which seems to be in direct conflict with their duty. The issues really revolve around not dealing with criminals effectively. The task force assigned to confiscating guns from known felons that are out of jail is insufficient for the task. Therefore, it is fault of those in charge (politicians) of jeopardizing the law abiding citizens by not having dealt with this a long time ago. If LE is not on our side they are against us. We should be seeking to vote to have their budgets cut significantly. If they can't differentiate between the law abiding and the criminals, I don't see the point in supporting their desire for greater and greater power, it can only be abused. |
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La doesnt have a gun problem....it has a LAPD and gang member problem
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Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764 |
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Well I got mine today. Live in West LA. Did the PPT in Culver City on Friday 2/9. Letter dated and mailed Monday 2/11. I feel so very very special...
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Also, DROS is not necessary for transfer of a long gun more than 50 years old between California residents. That's good until January 1st, 2014. I got my first semi-automatic battle rifles (Garands) that way -- paperless, as they should be.
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