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This is basically done,I want to pick a couple more up to experiment with.
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Oh Saiga 12, how much clay popping fun have we had? Oh yes, I remember.... plenty My favorite comment someone made last time I took it out was, "I think you ran out of ammo before the first shell hit the ground!" Last edited by stix213; 03-29-2011 at 1:54 AM.. |
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you sir have a very understanding wife! |
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Looks good.
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Yes you did my friend, although my brake didn't turn out as pretty as yours did.
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Whoa, where did you find that?
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Can some one show me where the flow chart is? I can't seem to find it today. Forward grip ok right?
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My S-12
Was messing around with some netting for camo... I only did the top cover. Later I'll do the rest of the shotgun.
Also bought some rails and put one on the top cover and my DIY handguard. Can't see it in the pictures but the red dot is aligned with the front sight post. I have to get a smaller bolt for the handguard. I drilled then tapped near the reciver. Last edited by RLTW; 05-01-2011 at 11:24 PM.. Reason: added pic |
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Hi, will the 10 round drum magazine fit with this conversion? I LIKE it!!! Thanks, Bill
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His shotgun has a different kind of BB solution. The paddle is cut off an needs a tool to remove the magazine.
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I don't want to thread jack here, but does anyone have any info on how this is compared to say a solar tactical, or similar maglock? Feel free to PM me. Also the shotgun looks great. I may also go with the ace style stock.
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HK sights came last week Molot Grip just came in today.(Damn, Cope's flat rate snail mail!) Just waiting for the new original designTG. Then a trip to VA. .
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Theres no thread for it but I had to post this BAD*SS SAIGA 12 video:
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Pretty sweet. So wish we could have sbs here. When I have the money I want to get a trust so I can get an AOW S12
I tried to embed it but having difficulties, Heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hGh42mM8pw Last edited by chaseface; 05-21-2011 at 7:03 PM.. |
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Fixed! .
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Here's mine, after the build party yesterday... still needs to be refinished, maybe next week...
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See, there was nothing to it but to do it. Saved you some bucks didn't it?
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Once I go back next week and get it parkerized it'll be pretty nifty... then to start thinking about more upgrades... I understand there are attachments that make changing mags easier, and a last round bolt hold-open mod...
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Thats cool, I wonder how it works. I don't know if I would spend 50 bucks on it tho, I have no problem rocking my mags in. I love my Promag 10 round drum mags. They are awesome. Great conversion by the way. Is that a CSS trigger guard?
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I'm really digging your charging handle on the S12. Where did you get the work done? I'll post pics of mine soon.
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So only tubular .22 mags and lever action firearms are exempted. Shotguns are not exempted. But as you can see, possession of large capacity magazines is not illegal, but obtaining it legally is the hard part. Last edited by chaseface; 05-22-2011 at 11:31 PM.. |
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Just a quick pick of a couple of my babies....
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Pics coming when im done with the conversion, im done with the standard pistol grip just need to finish up the gas system, muzzle device, and adding a stock.
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12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following: (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds The key word is centerfire rifle, a shotgun is not a centerfire rifle. Shotguns have a completely different set of laws in which to comply with. (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following: (A) A folding or telescoping stock. (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip. (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine. (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. There is nothing here that says a fixed mag with more then 10 rounds is illegal. Remember, there are 2" shotgun shells, so your normal 8 shot 930 mossy or Remmy 1100 could be turned into an evil AW simply by loading those 2" shells? I don't think so and that part of the law would be tossed out with 1 lawsuit.
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EDIT: Forgot 922(r) compliance. More complications!
You're right and wrong. (but I won't call you "bud"). You *can* legally attach 11+rd magazines to a converted or 922(r) compliant S12. It does not make it an assault weapon to use a "large capacity" magazine with a shotgun. HOWEVER....the "Large Capacity Magazine" ban DOES keep you from selling, importing, manufacturing, giving, or lending a "large capacity" S12 magazine. Get it? It's *two* issues. Sure, you *can* legally use *legally acquired* S12 drums/mags in your converted or 922(r) compliant S12. The problem is, how do you legally acquire a 12/20 rd Saiga 12 magazine? Quote:
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The info that I highlighted was what he posted. CApc 12020 is a catch all for "bad things that might or possibly used as weapons".12276 is the actual penal code that has the definition of an AW in California. When answering legal questions it helps to post the PC so everyone is clear. Trust me, I know the laws backwards and forwards, if I don't know I have people to call anytime I need to get the right info, whether it be our ATF agent, CA DOJ (useless 90% of the time), Bill Wiese, or the lawyers.
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