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Old 03-25-2018, 11:07 PM
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Anyone know of 100gr 224 bullets made by the standard bullet makers? I hear Sierra has a 95gr, but have not seen them yet. Reaching for heavy pill options. Thanks. :-)
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My Lyman book shows data for 90 grain bullets and nothing larger.

I'm probably gonna hate the answer but I have to ask anyway: why do you want to shoot such a heavy projectile out of a .223? Seems like you need to be moving up to a bigger caliber for whatever application you have in mind.
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Old 03-26-2018, 8:36 AM
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My Lyman book shows data for 90 grain bullets and nothing larger.

I'm probably gonna hate the answer but I have to ask anyway: why do you want to shoot such a heavy projectile out of a .223? Seems like you need to be moving up to a bigger caliber for whatever application you have in mind.

I didn't realize .223 was the only cartridge that took .224 bullets.
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Old 03-26-2018, 9:06 AM
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I didn't realize .223 was the only cartridge that took .224 bullets.
Nothing like exposing my ignorance to start the week off right.

So since I'm still curious, I'll rephrase the question as follows:

I'm probably gonna hate the answer but I have to ask anyway: Why do you want to shoot such a heavy .224 diameter projectile? Seems like you need to be moving up to a bigger caliber for whatever application you have in mind.
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:46 AM
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What about the 100 grain Federal Fusion bullets used in the 224 Valkyrie?
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1 to 5 twist barrel
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:33 PM
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Just got some high BC 6mm bullets in for testing. Notice the required twist rate.
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What about the 100 grain Federal Fusion bullets used in the 224 Valkyrie?
The packaging seems to be 90gr. I had heard there was a 100 grain pill during testing, but perhaps they nixed it as they are pushing the 1-7T barrels to promote the lighter bullet cartridges.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:58 PM
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I'm probably gonna hate the answer but I have to ask anyway: Why do you want to shoot such a heavy .224 diameter projectile? Seems like you need to be moving up to a bigger caliber for whatever application you have in mind.
Yes, 6mm and up will certainly work and is the logical choice... 'cept you have to move up in the chassis. One adapts what they have... maybe.

My Don Quixote quest is to see if a 224 pill will consistently knock over a 50-55lb ram at 500 meters. I can do reasonably with a 75gr on a soft set critter, but I 'may' get 1-2 if they're set normal. Higher mass on target with higher velocity out the pipe might work, therefore the query on heavy pills.

Two months ago I had never heard of a 224 Valkyrie. Now I am intrigued. Just in the beginning stages, hence the 100gr question. :-)
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Just got some high BC 6mm bullets in for testing. Notice the required twist rate.
Yah that is an interesting twist, but 6mm will probably choke in a 224 barrel. I'm going to use a 6.5T.
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I do not know who made the bullet but I have seen a target that was shot at 1002 yards with a 1-7 Valkyrie with 100 gr pills, if I remember correctly a 3" 3 shot group
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My Don Quixote quest is to see if a 224 pill will consistently knock over a 50-55lb ram at 500 meters. I can do reasonably with a 75gr on a soft set critter, but I 'may' get 1-2 if they're set normal. Higher mass on target with higher velocity out the pipe might work, therefore the query on heavy pills.
I'll be interested in reading about your results. I tried looking for load data and estimated MVs at 500 yards for something heavier than a 77 grain bullet and came up short. Presumably you're hoping the heavier bullet will be moving at greater than about 80% of the speed of the lighter bullet when it hits the target (kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the speed).
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Jack, the Federal 90's run true, but still too light to topple the AR500 rams at SVSC, with a std set. In the process of working up a load to send the pills downrange, hopefully with a bit more oomph. Been hectic, so some of the projects get sidelined. Will post more as it develops. Using a 24" WOA pipe with a 6.5 twist.
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http://outlawstatebullets.com/12.html

$45/100 pretty expensive.

If/When the .224 Valkyrie gains traction, there will be 100g cartridges for it which means there will also be projectiles becoming available soon afterwards.
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