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LifeStraw SUCKS
LifeStraw sucks as a stand alone water filtration device. Yes they work and they are better than nothing at all but, there are many better options out there. What do you guys keep in your bug out bags? Or at home even? I want to acquire some better water filtration equipment and I want your ideas. Thanks!
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Sawyer with chlorine dioxide tabs. At home and other locations, water storage in blue water barrels with water preserver, large sawyer, Katadyn hiker pro and more tabs. Then a combo of blue water and Puravai. In the car, also blue water, Puravai, sawyer mini and tabs. I have thought of a Berkey but all my preps are based on a mobile situation to some extent.
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Those are some great ideas! I will start looking in to the Puravai as I haven't used that before. The Katadyn is freaking awesome though!
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Have these in BOB, you can screw a water bottle on it to fill for later. replaceable filter & pre filter. built pretty well IMHO.
https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Filt...ateway&sr=8-10 |
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For get home bags:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00TOX6U...lig_dp_it&th=1 For longer term: https://smile.amazon.com/Katadyn-Per...g-goods&sr=1-1 |
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I want to try out one of these. They look fast and light might be convenient for use on the move.
https://grayl.com |
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Sawyer minis in my bags. Sawyer squeeze for the house and motorhome. Lifestraw is a good marketing company that makes poor filters. I also have some Aquamira Frontier Pro filters for mini bags. They are good for about 20 gallons and very small. I also have chlorine tabs, iodine tabs and potassium permanganate.
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thanks for sharing
i got a handful of lifestraws a while back on discount, just to have for immediate need and to give away as gifts, and not part of some prepper strategy. since most of my family can buy their own crap, i tend to give gifts like wind up emergency radios, light sticks and stuff for emergencies. |
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Just another youtube *******. Did he do any lab tests to determine what was filtered out and what was not?
No. Just gave an opinion out of his ***. I'm so sick of these self appointed youtube ****s telling everybody what to do. Like all the other posers.
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Sawyer Mini. Used one last time I went backpacking and it worked great. Have a few in the bob and a few in the house. Also have some lifestraws.
Would suggest a big pack of coffee filters, too, to pre-clean and extend the life of filters. Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2..._9w40CbHPHBEA3
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Some good information and comparisons here: https://theprepared.com/gear/reviews...water-filters/
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They may not be the best, but if you got them as gifts for people who aren't already supplied preppers you are still doing a good deed. I do the same and since it's not stuff I'm planning on using and I'm buying multiples I frequently focus on price over perfection.
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I swear by the Sawyer mini. No, haven't done any scientific studies - but I use them a lot and have never got sick, so I'll count that as my scientific study. I keep one on my camel-back all the time - I travel cross country on a motorcycle and fill it with water from truck stops and restaurants - that water is probably nastier than pond-water, but I haven't got sick yet.
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Sawyer mini FTW.
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This. And I also have a Grayl bottle which works on viruses that I use in the more disgusting parts of the world like India. I highly recommend them.
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Just a heads up. Counterfeit Sawyer minis have made it to Amazon. Be sure to check that you get the real thing.
https://sawyer.com/counterfeit/ |
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Another option, Katadyn BeFree.
I prefer to use the Sawyer mini and squeeze, but others may want something different. https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Membr...25635986&psc=1 katadyn.jpg
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Just to clarify, I made the video with the intent of it being an opinion piece. The LifeStraw does work as a filtration device and is by far better than no device at all. The main point of the video was just to say that for the price, there are much better options out there. I'll be doing a more thorough comparison video here in the near future. Just for starters, a LifeStraw is rated to filter 4,000 gallons of water where as a Sawyer Mini is rated for 100,000 gallons. I'd say the additional 94,000 gallons is worth $5.00.
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There will be some videos soon about caliber comparison, reloading, survival skills, range reviews, with a blend of entertainment content related to the survival genre. I will never claim to be an expert and the goal of the channel was to learn more about prepping and survival by testing my knowledge and receiving feedback/criticism from the community. Looking forward to doing more!
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On a hunt when all the water drained from my camelback because I set it down and pinched the bite valve, I used a life straw to refill it. It was out of a tiny puddle made by a horse hoof in the mud about 10’ away from a seeping spring. One mouthful at a time, until the camelback was filled. Drank the whole bag and didn’t get sick. So, I carry a life straw in my bak at all times now.
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Just added to my list of stuff to buy and try.
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I had lunch with one of the engineers who make industrial scale versions of this technology a few weeks ago. Asked about the 100,000 gallons claim and he said maybe, but highly unlikely when used for it's intended purpose. The pore permeability suffers from degradation due to contaminants that require acidic solutions to thoroughly remove. The longer they adhere to the surface and embed, that's that much surface area no longer allowing a flow. Plain water back flushes push some debris out, but without an etch, the lifespan is significantly shorter. The acid etches eat away at the material small enough to stick in the pores so back flushes are able to remove the debris. Worse than that is the friction from moving water causes the debris to physically damage the membrane material so that EVERYTHING can eventually get through, and you'll never know it.
I mentioned the lifestraw and he said he trusts that lifespan number more because it's realistic. They all claim to exceed NSF ratings, but none of them are listed on the NSF site, and NSF 53 requires companies prove the filters last as long as they claim, so that 100,000 gallon claim has nothing legally requiring them to prove anything. I've seen the test docs and results from all of them. What they remove is proven, how long they last is not. Buyer beware.
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Good info sir! I agree that the ratings are probably skewed. Are there any filtration devices that your friend suggested as being better than others? |
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I was more curious about the high temperature acid washes and how they affected lifespan of the membrane material in the water plant as compared to a wastewater plant we have using the same treatment method to return water used for irrigation. I'm going to be using some of the same units to create a grey water system on our property for fruit tree and garden irrigation and I wanted to know about cleaning and backwashing. The plants have to run membrane integrity tests on the individual filter assembly units. If the units leak, they use an epoxy to seal the tubes off. If enough get sealed off they dont meet state regs for use in a municipal drinking water plant. They're still fine and have up to 90% of the tubes still functional, they just can't be used in the plant. Theres no way to recycle them, so they're tossed out, but I can get a couple of old units from him for my filter system. I already have a pressure vessel somebody ordered for another site that was undersized so they let me take it. All I need is to find a pump on the cheap, buy some fittings and tube, and bury a tank 7 or 8 feet underground and I have an almost free irrigation and fire suppression system I can use as an emergency water source if my well pump fails.
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Here is a great pack filter that takes care of radiation and heavy metals. I don't think it gets virus or biologicals though. So you'd have to boil the water then filter it. It's kind of specific but fairly cheap.
http://www.seychelle.com/buy#!/Drink...egory=25951804 |
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Having your own water source is critical.
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I learned from a guy who went through the Katrina disaster.... now I always put a few of these single-serve Emergency Drinking Water Pouches in my vehicles, bobs, offices, hiking jackets, etc.
They are lightweight and easy to carry. Not a mean to replace emergency water supply, but to buy us some time..... |
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OK everybody, I decided to make a more informative video about the differences between the Sawyer Mini and the LifeStraw in order to appease some of my harsher critics. Don't mind the water test, it was bound to be a dud but, felt like it was worth looking in to. Let me know what you think!
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Don't sweat it. They are better than nothing. Just keep an eye out for sawyer to go on sale. It's always good to have a backup.
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