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AK based Pistol / Off Roster Peace Officer Sale
Local police sergeant wants to buy a pistol that is AK based. It has the forearm support device. I normally don't deal with these types of firearms and this would be my first such transaction. I tried to search but nothing came up re. my specific issues:
1. Can I DROS as a Peace Officer exempt / non- roster pistol? 2. As a pistol, is any type of mag tool device (bullet button) required? Thanks for any clarification. |
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1. Yes
2. As you know the bullet button is now illegal. It will have to be imported into the State with a fixed magazine set up. One in which you have to disassemble the gun to remove the magazine. Unless you hqve an assault weapons permit from CA DOJ.
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The pistol is this one: IWI Galil Ace PISTOL with SB tactical stabilizing brace. Caliber is 7.62x39. Barrel length is 8.3”. So I canNOT simply DROS this as an off-roster exempt / Peace Officer pistol sale? I need an out of state shop to convert this to a fixed mag? |
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You have to make sure that it is not considered a so-called a-salt weapon. Just being a LEO does not make them exempt, although there are procedures in which they can get one.
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I'm not an AW dealer and the customer wanted to be able to purchase as a pistol with simple DROS processed as an off roster PO sale. Looks as if this might not be possible. Last edited by eltee; 07-05-2017 at 12:43 PM.. Reason: Typo |
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Have it shipped in disassembled. The Galil can be stripped down in about 10 minutes. Then DROS it as receiver only, making it CA compliant is up to the purchaser at that point.
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Sorry for all the questions, my first transaction of this type. |
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Be careful though as there aren't any current fixed mag devices for that platform
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People keep implying that the AK Maglatch isn't compliant... Where's the proof? I don't have any stake in it but I'd like to see some definitive proof it can be defeated without disassembling the action rather than the continued parroting that it can.
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Due to internal differences with it's receivers, the AK MagLatch is not compatible with the IWI Galil ACE (firearm the OP was inquiring about). AK MagLatch only works on standard patterned AK receivers (stamped and milled). The Galil ACE is an AK type firearm but the receiver is different than the standard AK pattern. ^Galil ACE utilizes a "lower receiver" that contains the magazine well and grip.
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It's my understanding that to be "peace officer exempt" he/she must show (on a department letterhead signed by the appropriate department head) that the firearm is to be used in the course of his/her official duties.
Otherwise, the sale is as it would be for any other Cit. and in this case, not peace officer exempt...
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LE agency letter is only required to bypass the 10 day waiting period. [PC 26950] |
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I stand corrected...
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I think he was talking about for an AW, not just off roster
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Yeah, I was just thinking off-Roster.
Need LE agency AW letter to get an assault weapon. |
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I now rescind my "corrected" posture. That was my initial thought...
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