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Out of curiosity, what's the "cooling off period" before you're legally able to sell a homemade, personal use firearm? I'm planning on building an AK, and I'm not planning on selling it, but if the time comes that I have to, I don't want to get slapped with some manufacturing charge because I didn't wait 5 years, 1 year, whatever. Thanks in advance!
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give it a couple days. Gene had a webserver issue and is rebuilding the site.
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So after recommending you put a serial number on home built guns so you don't get in trouble, that's what just got a guy I knows AR's taken away!
This guys brother had a late season tag that he filled the last Saturday of the season. They quartered the buck up and let the meat age for a week before cutting it up. When they cut the buck up the guy I know takes a little meat home with him. Well he gets pulled over by a game warden (tail light) and the warden finds the meat. This guy tells the warden the whole story because it's the truth and the warden's not buying it. He accuses the guy of back dating the tag on a fresh kill. The warden takes the meat and the head to do DNA test. The guy I know knows it's the same deer so nothing to worry about there. The next day the warden shows up at the guys house and ask if he can look around. They tell him flat out NO you can't look around. The warden calls for back up tells everyone not to touch anything and calls the DA for a Warrant. The back up gets there but no warrant. They tell the guys that they have a daylight only warrant on the way but the guy with the warrant gets lost or something and daylight is fading fast, so they search without it being served. They ask the guys to open the safe and show them the gun that shot the buck. They tell them no. "I would hate to ruin your safe but we will get into it one way or another" they say. So they open the safe with about 30 guns in it, and the cops run ALL the numbers. In the end they left all the guns except for 3 AR's. The guy I know built them from 80% lowers and used the same serial numbers on two BUT they are different models, with different model numbers, one is a .308. The cops said they were taking them because the serial numbers looked suspicious. Anyway I came to this thread to get a link for the guys lawyer, and thought I would share. So much for saying NO to a search. Last edited by VaderSpade; 11-25-2012 at 11:13 AM.. |
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If the UOC movement taught us anything it is to always have an audio recorder running when interacting with LEOs.
This will probably come down to "his word against mine."
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Im kinda lost im building a ak pistol from a parts kit and i have no intention of selling.
*do i have to put a seriel # and were it was made *should i put a serial # and were it was made |
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This is a complex area and lends itself to expensive litigation if certain situations occur...
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Considering a future 80% AR build, I'm inclined to include a date of completion.
If future prohibition occurs, the firearm will be marked as being completed during a legal period. Appreciate any thoughts, feedback, comments. (new member, 1st post - please be gentle) |
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you could have added that any date in the future .Take a picture of it with today's newspaper.{or the date and time stamp on your computer, lower right corner}
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Thanks bplvr, good points. Even photos with old newspapers, etc. can be produced at later dates.
I can't think of any practical way to provide airtight documentation of a production date so I'm nixing the idea. Last edited by ivorydoc; 01-29-2013 at 8:27 PM.. Reason: error |
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I read the website on what is a zip gun, but im still confused what is a zip gun legaly? also im thinking about making that taruss 1911 80 percent. What things do i need to consider? can I make it full semi auto right away or do i need to make it a single shot then register it and then convert it?
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You could take a picture of the rifle with the newspaper yadda yadda put it in an envolpe and mail it to yourself would be sealed with postage date. Might work for you
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Just a photo of the receiver including the ser. # and any other markings present, in a sealed, postmarked envelope I think would be sufficient. I can't see how the inclusion of the newspaper yadda yadda could help to establish a date of completion. The receiver could have been completed before, on, or after the date of the newspaper (after- using an older newspaper). |
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why do people think that a postmarked envelope means anything? what stops me from mailing an empty unsealed envelope to get a postmark cancellation on it and then saving the envelope to seal at a later date?
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Called post office they said if you sent it back empty the stamp would most Likely say "unsealed no contents" also said you could also send it to yourself certified to get written and computerized record in PO files
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If I have a homebuilt AK that i did a couple years ago and has had the serial number, place of manufacture, etc all engraved on it to spec...
Can I transfer that firearm to a parent (who is not prohibited from owning and who lives in California) without an FFL? I know the transfer can be done with an FFL, but in this case its an intrafamily transfer of a Rifle which does not normally need an FFL.
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They will soon pass a law changing anything creative we devise...
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That would be good. Ever hear the story of the Brier Patch... I've already got evil thoughts...
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Sticky stuff...
Yes long live the Repuplic and true freedom
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Ok, so I want to engrave on my flat?
TONMIN-2013/1387XXX HOMEBUILT MAADI-AKIT WALNUT CREEK CA 922R COMPLIANT Cal. 7.62x39 The serial number is my maadi kit number in english Any comments? |
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That will work
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First off, I have been considering building an AR from an 80% lower for about a year now. I am new to all this "Build a Bear" stuff, so please no flaming!
Since this is the thread for home builds, If I build an AR or AK must I add a bullet button to it to be legal in Cali? Any other suggestions besides engraving a SN and manufacturing location, etc?
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Its pretty cut and dry. Theres enough FUD kicking around which leads to ridiculous things like welding suppressors and locking folding stocks in place. I dare someone to find ONE instance of an AK builder(or even just a regular knuckle-dragging owner) getting busted for either of those. And while you're googling, find proof that not heat treating a home bent flat leads to egged axis pin holes. Go. Last edited by SacAKBuilder; 10-18-2013 at 2:36 PM.. Reason: misstyped |
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(this is starting to sound like a theme with you, "Forget the law, do what you want.", perhaps this had something to do with getting banned on another forum?) |
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Read this thread through
Read a few other threads through Did a lot of googling Just want to make sure before I send this thing off to be engraved - Make- can be anything I want Model- not needed Serial- can be anything I want as long as I don't duplicate one for another home build Location - NEEDS TO BE ACCURATE (right??) Caliber- MULTI is ok Going to add a QR that reads my real name and last four of social with made in USA 2013... Seem ok? Am i understanding everything correctly here? Thanks in advance |
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I'm not sure if anyone knows just what (at a minimum) you will need if registration comes about, but you would be safe with, Name (yours and a reconcilable abbreviation), city & state, Model, Caliber, and serial number.
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