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Old 08-24-2019, 2:44 PM
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Default 9mm derringer spanked my apparently delicate palm

When I shot a snubnose 44 magnum revolver I expected it to hurt a bit, but did not expect a 9mm derringer (15 oz gross weight) would make me say ouch. My Springfield XD 9mm doesn't bother my hand, it weighs about 50% more at 25 oz but also distributes the recoil into more of the palm.
So I tried some lighter reloads that don't hurt. 50% powder charges in either light or heavy bullet had no uncomfortable recoil. But the light loads only have about the energy of 22LR. I'll work a load up until I hit my threshold of pain and try wearing one of my mountain biking gloves with the padded palm. I don't know how some people shoot these comfortably with 45 Colt or 410 shot shells.
Still a 5 -10 yards last chance defense gun. Missed the target in my half shots at 15 yards. Had to take out the case extractor, too much trouble to angle two shells once rims locked into it. just used my thumb nail to pull the spent cases out no problem.





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Old 08-24-2019, 3:18 PM
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Did you miss with the first shot or the second one? Hopefully it wasn't two misses followed by two hits. That would be bad! Two hits followed by two misses would still be bad, but not as bad.
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Old 08-24-2019, 3:51 PM
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Weight is just one part of the equation - the amount of surface area that is in contact with your palm is very small and not exactly shaped in a way to disperse energy in a comfortable manner. My Undercover Lite with the little hip-grip doesn’t give much to hold onto, and it barks AND bites when you light off 158 gr +p’s!

Still a badass little hold-out gun you got there!
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Old 08-25-2019, 5:37 AM
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I have one in 38 special. Mine hurts like hell just as much!!!

It's just considered a last ditch weapon so shooting it a lot isn't necessary.
Take a look at some You Tube videos and see for yourself.

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Old 08-25-2019, 8:24 AM
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Those feel heavy until you shoot them, then you wish they were heavier to help absorb the recoil.
I stuck with the 125g .38 Special standard velocity in mine.

The top barrel usually shoots high with the bore line above your hand.
The bottom barrel shoots straight with the bore being in the middle of your hand.
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Remember what the character actor said in the 1975 movie, Jaws.

'...that's what happens when you-vah been countin money for too long'.
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Old 08-25-2019, 11:01 PM
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Looks like fun. I think last ditch guns should actually be practiced with MORE since they are so difficult to shoot. Unpleasant yes, but Iíd argue that makes it all the more necessary to practice. Itís only pain.

But if the powder puff loads are what work, then use those. No sense in making it worse that it needs to be.


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Actually mouse guns need practice too. I just got a Seecamp 32 ACP and turned out that was not bad on my old hands at all.
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Actually mouse guns need practice too. I just got a Seecamp 32 ACP and turned out that was not bad on my old hands at all.
I just picked up a High Standard Derringer in .22 magnum for carrying around the house. Ammo is about the same price as .38 Special. Two shots. DA only. The design makes it very comfortable to shoot. Wicked muzzle blast. Actually shoots flames out of the short barrels.

Lucky Gunner actually uses the wrong grip initially. Index finger points along the side of the barrel. Middle finger pulls the trigger.

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I looked at an American Derringer back in the 80s. I think it was 45/70 and 410 shotgun. It had a 6" barrel. When reading the instruction manual they suggested a face mask and chest guard when shooting.
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I have the Davis Derringer in .32 acp. Bottom barrel wouldn’t go off, light strike. I drove by Davis Industries in Chino years ago. It was across the street from the prison in a light industrial complex. They took it to the back and gave me a tour of the place. When we were done, my .32 was waiting at a small range they had, maybe 25 feet. I fired off a few rounds and was good to go. It has worked great ever since but I can hit a target past about 15 feet. LOL
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My grandfather has a set he keeps trying to give me, 22, 22mag, 357, 45 colt, 44 mag, and 45-70/410.

I haven't been brave enough to test anything over a light load in the 38/357. I've tested the others with primer only/bullet pulled rounds just to see if they worked.

I can't imagine trying to hold onto the 44 mag or the 45-70.
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Old 08-27-2019, 4:48 PM
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15 yards is pretty far for a derringer. It's mostly a "get off me" or "bad breath" distance.
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Maybe Hogue makes an over sized, rubber, aftermarket grip for those
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It the extractor holds the cartridge (I saw it was missing), you might be able to shoot 380 loads out of that gun.


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sadly now not california legal in any form, bond arms derringers are the best. iím no recoil junkie so i pass on shooting 45acp and 357mag out of a b.a. 45lc recoil isnít bad at all, 38sp and 9mm are comfortable. just use large rubber grips for ď4Ē calibers, small for the others.


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