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Roster Question - Glocks
What is it with Glocks made in the US are a no go in Cali?
Purschasing a Gen 3 G17 stripped frame. Used. Has US at the end of the serial
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Not much to know beyond US Glocks are not on roster. The roster is not something you try to make sense of.
And no stripped frame is on the roster. Zip. Zero. |
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A frame isn't on the certified list. The CA DOJ thinks that a US made one is somehow different, who knows why.
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For long guns yes, for handguns no.
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First off its "CA" or "California" or even "Kaliforniastan" but never I repeat never "Cali", that is unless youre a 909 douchebag. /end rant.
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If you are exempt (leo for example) then you are exempt. As long as its not an assult weapon, you are fine.
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If you are exempt, then it doesn't matter.
It isn't a G17, since the frame isn't marked and it is used for different models.
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yes. since the frame is by definition the firearm
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What are your thoughts on Kali?
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Thats better. At least the "k" makes it "counter-culture" cool whereas the "c" just makes it douchey.
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How would this transfer be roster exempt and not 1-30 exempt?
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LEO are exempt from the roster, but IIRC not exempt from 1 in 30.
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If I recall correctly there was a big conundrum when Glock started releasing models after the Gen 3. The first instance was when the Glock 21SF ambi safety + picatinny rail was released. A few were released in CA before DOJ decided that it was a no go and went as far as to issue a recall letter coercing people to turn in their mis-drosed models. Then the Gen 4 came out and a state of confusion ensued in 2010. For a while no one could determine if it was considered a "design change" as far as the roster.
At this time CA DOJ made an arbitrary and capricious decision to ban all gen 4s and in their mind, at some semblance of logical consistency, prohibit all USA made frames which I believe appeared at the same time. Honestly a knee jerk reaction and probably would have been a non-issue had it (USA frames) not appeared the same time as the Gen 4. |
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CA DOJ considers Glock Inc. (USA) to be a different manufacturer than Glock Ges.m.b.H. (Austria).
So, the Roster listings only applies to Glock Gesmbh (Austria) and not Glock Inc (USA). Glock was told that for the Glock Inc (USA) made pistols to be listed they would need to have chamber load indicators, magazine disconnect mechanisms, and microstamping arrays. |
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https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...obuls/9907.pdf
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https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=27535 |
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Single action revolvers |
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Federal LEO vs State LEO
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There you go! Thanks Dave,
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EDIT - I guess the guys above found another scenario. So hard to keep up with the maze of laws in this state. Last edited by SkyHawk; 04-23-2019 at 7:33 PM.. |
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C&R
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Is the frame stamped "made in the USA"?
If not, it is not a US made pistol. It is manufactured in Austria for the US market. A quick Google search will show many difference sources that confirm that the "US" serial number prefix was referring only to being imported into the U.S. market and is a practice that was dropped quite some time ago. Bottom line, unless it is stamped "Made in the USA"...it wasn't. Photos of the differences can be seen at this link: https://smallarmssolutions.com/home/...a-made-pistols
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"The first Glock pistols imported into the U.S. came with serial numbers beginning with a two letters followed by the typical three numbers and a “US” suffix indicating they were for export to the United States."
https://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2730
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The Cali Cartel are the thugs in Sacramento who run this state.
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