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Before leaving my appt. today I asked for a list of approved courses. These two pages were handed to me so I scanned them for all to have access to.
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Only the state can direct the registration of firearms, not the city PD's, county sheriff's, or other forms of city/county/municipal government. They can't do it as a general law, or do it individually. State Preemption of Registration and Licensing.
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I'm getting on the phone right now.
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Wesley Lagomarsino, CA CCW Instructor - Alameda, Amador, Calaveras, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Joaquin, Shasta, Yolo, Yuba, the Cities of Davis, Galt, Ione, Jackson, Lodi, Manteca, Ripon, Stockton and Tracy ... and many more to come ... and Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada, Maine, Oregon, Utah, Virginia & Washington www.LFIguns.com - serving Sacramento, Reno, the Central Valley, Foot Hills and Bay Area |
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Q & A with the Sheriff
This might be helpful for all of you in El Dorado County. I spoke with Sheriff D'Agostini this afternoon (after seeing that my name, amongst others, is not on the apparent incomplete list of approved instructors posted on the previous page of this thread) and I asked a few questions that were posted in this thread and that have come to me via PM or e-mail. These were the questions and his responses (all in my words):
1. At what point in the application process do you require applicants to submit their guns and/or ammo for inspection by your Armorer? Not at all, unless the gun listed on the application is something that's quite unusual. 2. Do you restrict CCW holders from carrying in school zones or do you follow what's written in PC626.9(l) and USC Title 18 Section 922(q)(2)(B)(ii) which exempts CCW holders from this? CCW's issued from the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department are not restricted in school zones pursuant PC626.9. The goal is to allow whatever the law allows and to restrict only what the law requires any department to restrict. 3. What alterations or modifications to guns will you allow and what won't you allow? Allowed: Grips, grip screws, mag releases, slide release levers, sights, beaver tail grip safeties, thumb safeties ... pretty much anything that won't affect the safe operation and/or safe handling of the gun. Just be sure that the parts are installed properly (by a competent person) and that they work the way they're supposed to. Not allowed: Removal of safeties, reduced or lightened triggers to the point that they're an accident waiting to happen (there's no set poundage that is acceptable or not, just use common sense, you don't want a 2lb trigger pull on a carry gun and you certainly don't want to have to answer to a DA Investigator why your trigger pull is so light). Note: there may be more items that are unacceptable that we just didn't discuss. If you have to really question it, it's probably not OK. 4. Is there a minimum length required of the initial and renewal courses? Initial - 8 hours Renewal - 4 hours 5. Is there a required time before or during the application process that the training course must be completed? Shortly before or during the application process is fine. You don't have to turn in a completion certificate with your application but, you can if you want to. The goal is to streamline the process so it's consistent and efficient, so you can get everything done in a couple of visits. 6. Do you require a specific qualification course of fire or the use of a specific target? No. That's completely up to the instructor. This is yet another conversation with the Sheriff that solidifies that he's very pro-CCW for the good guys. It should be pretty apparent that he's doing all that he can to make this process simple and painless for all of us. A big "THANK YOU" goes out again to Sheriff John D'Agostini.
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ccwtrainer--
Thank you for the additional info and for doing the legwork to gather the info. Sheriff D'Agostini is living up to his campaign promises. While it is frustrating at times to take part in the process while it is being developed, we must also realize that the Sheriff has issues to deal with beyond just CCW policy. It will take a while to get the wrinkles ironed out and hopefully those of us on CG can assist in this process. Thanks again to Sheriff D'Agostini for injecting some pragmatism into this policy, and thank you to ccwtrainer, Gray and others who directly interface with the Sheriff for passing along this information ahead of the grinding wheels of administrative process. |
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And ditto what you and Sacto929 said about being grateful to him for honoring our rights.
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The List, The Whole List, & Nothing But The List!!
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Here's the PDF with the complete list: El Dorado County Sheriff's Approved Instructors.pdf
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I had fun teaching your class today. Great job qualifying!! You're a very safe and good gun handler! See you out at IDPA.
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Thanks.
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Appl. processed 1/19. Nothing yet.
Does anyone know if the EDSO has made a final decision regarding whether or not serial numbers will be put on the license? I believe the prior standard was that SNs were put on the license, but I'm hoping they will drop that.
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For those of you in the application process, I'm curious how many guns EDSO is currently allowing on the permit. My current permit allows 3, but in private discussions with one of the certified instructors, it was mentioned that the new Sheriff was going to permit 5 as that was the maximum number they could fit on the permit. Anyone know first hand what the SO is currently saying?
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I have a prior CCW from Oregon. The California DOJ application asks you to cite (provide information about) any prior CCWs, so I did. I also brought the Oregon CCW License with me to the interview and when the EDSO representative examined it she made a comment like "Oh, so they DON'T put SNs on theirs! Hmmm.". This lead me to believe they might have been entertaining the thought of eliminating that requirement. Hence my question, which as I said I could have worded better. I know it's a long, long shot, but I figured it was worth the inquiry.
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Thanks for the response. I have to re-up in about 3-4 months and I have 9 that I could list. Maybe I'll be the test case if someone doesn't beat me to it. On my NV permit, they allow any gun you qualify with (semi-auto) and any revolver as long as you've qualified with at least one revolver (I borrowed one from the instructor just to have that option if I ever buy a wheel gun).
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Serial Numbers listed on CA CCW permits - CA PC 12051(a)(1)
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PC 12051 (a) (1) The standard application form for licenses described
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Wesley Lagomarsino, CA CCW Instructor - Alameda, Amador, Calaveras, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Joaquin, Shasta, Yolo, Yuba, the Cities of Davis, Galt, Ione, Jackson, Lodi, Manteca, Ripon, Stockton and Tracy ... and many more to come ... and Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada, Maine, Oregon, Utah, Virginia & Washington www.LFIguns.com - serving Sacramento, Reno, the Central Valley, Foot Hills and Bay Area |
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5 gun limit on EDSO issued CCW permits
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No big deal. It's impossible to read and know every law. That's the great thing about the variety of people and knowledge here on Calguns. We can all learn from one another.
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Wesley Lagomarsino, CA CCW Instructor - Alameda, Amador, Calaveras, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Joaquin, Shasta, Yolo, Yuba, the Cities of Davis, Galt, Ione, Jackson, Lodi, Manteca, Ripon, Stockton and Tracy ... and many more to come ... and Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada, Maine, Oregon, Utah, Virginia & Washington www.LFIguns.com - serving Sacramento, Reno, the Central Valley, Foot Hills and Bay Area |
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What is the second interview?? When application was turned in, we went over the "interviewer's questions" at first appointment that are listed on CA DOJ application. SHould the CCW class be taken before the second interview or after that one? Thanks for the input.
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Second interview should be a brief Q&A and a likely quick inspection of your firearms. You will do this with a particular Lt. that has taken over the oversight o the CCW process.
The whole process should start moving along a bit quicker in the next 30 days as the new policies and team get things streamlined. |
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How did the second interviews go? Did you guys walk away with your permits in hand?
When I called about my application process, the nice lady said that they were still waiting to get my background check back from FBI / DOJ, and that they were also checking with my previous county of residence since I have not been in EDCo for 5 years. She indicated that FBI / DOJ is very backlogged due to the increase in applications. Hopefully, I'll hear good news soon.... |
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Good luck. Let us know if you run into anythiong different than this. 155
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Received my call today...
I'm fully approved and just need to complete my training course. Planned on taking it with Chris (Socom16) but depending on his availability I might have to squeeze into another class. Great Experience so far with the department, no complaints here.
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1st interview
Thanks to all of you that have gone before and got us to this point. I feel like I'm ready because of your posts. Thanks for sharing.
I'm scheduled for my 1st interview on Monday (2/28). My paperwork is good to go and I did a Placer/El Dorado/Sacramento approved 16 hour CCW course so I'm not expecting any surprises.
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