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Old 06-12-2017, 12:51 PM
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My card was charged by the ATF on April 7th, yet I still haven't gotten anything from them. Should I be worried at this point? Is there a way to contact them regarding the status of my application?
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My card was charged by the ATF on April 7th, yet I still haven't gotten anything from them. Should I be worried at this point? Is there a way to contact them regarding the status of my application?
Nah, I think they must process in batches. I was charged in early April as well. I do have 2 semi common names though.
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Mailed 03 FFL application and COE on 5/8/17

Received 03 FFL on 5/30/17
I got my COE a long time ago and my card was charged for the FFL back in late March or early April. (It's been so long I can't remember). But I still don't have the FFL!!!

My understanding is that they don't charge your card unless you're approved. im starting to get concerned. Does anyone know a number I can call to check the status? I'm going on a trip in about a month and would really like to be able to bring my COE and FFL with me in case I find some cool stuff to buy.
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Old 06-13-2017, 12:05 PM
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Sent my application for my 03 FFL on May 18 and received it on June 12. Way faster than I was expecting. I have had many background checks on the federal level but I don't know if that has any input on the turn around time.

Now for the COE.
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New to the process here. So why do people acquire the 03 before the COE? You can't do them at the same time?
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I did it that way only because I thought the 03 FFL was going to take longer than it did. I figured the COE expires in a year while the 03 FFL expires in 3 years so I'd rather have the 03 FFL before the calendar is ticking on the COE. Looking back I should have done them both at the same time.
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I got my COE from CalDOJ in about 5 weeks (seems reasonable to me and thank you sole nice lady processing them all).

I Am still waiting for FFL-03 (sent March 17 and cc charged about 10 days later). Meh.

I thought it was supposed to be the other way around?
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I got my COE from CalDOJ in about 5 weeks (seems reasonable to me and thank you sole nice lady processing them all).

I Am still waiting for FFL-03 (sent March 17 and cc charged about 10 days later). Meh.

I thought it was supposed to be the other way around?
It usually is... I'd be calling to check on that.

It can take a few months to get the welcome packet, but the certificate should have gone out in March.
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Old 06-14-2017, 1:46 PM
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It usually is... I'd be calling to check on that.

It can take a few months to get the welcome packet, but the certificate should have gone out in March.
i'm in the same boat.... what is the best number to call? i've checked the BATFE website and it only lists field offices. my forms were mailed to Atlanta, but to a different address than the field office listed on the BATFE website.
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I'd also appreciate the phone number if anyone has it on hand.
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You guys just need to be patient IMO. There seem to be few of us delayed, and I need to clear LiveScan every 2 years for work, so I know (well, assume) I'm fine. I'd give it a full 90 days before worrying too much, but that's just me.
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Got my COE in the mail today. Applied march 31, received June 16th. Holy crap that was faster than I expected.
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You guys just need to be patient IMO. There seem to be few of us delayed, and I need to clear LiveScan every 2 years for work, so I know (well, assume) I'm fine. I'd give it a full 90 days before worrying too much, but that's just me.
but I want to spend money on old guns right now!!! NOW!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!
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ATF Forms Mailed 4/13/17
COE forms Mailed 4/13/17 - Delivered 4/18/17 @ 6:44 am COE delivered 6/17/2017

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COE Delivered now need to shake the ATF tree and see what falls down. I know they charged my credit card back in May so time for a followup.
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So my FFL-03 app was returned yesterday and I need to correct how my name was entered in spots and return it. I have a Jon/Jonathan thing going on so that's my fault for not being consistent throughout the form. Since they already charged my credit card I hope they can let it slide there.

So FFL-03 mailed 3/17, charged 3/27 received back 6/16.

So late March senders it looks like we are on track to soon go look for over-priced Mausers with fake stamps while saving some LGS fees.

EDIT: my FFL-03 showed up today (7/14)

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Everything mailed 4/14/17.

Entire process from downloading to mailing took an hour and a half including the drive to the Live Scan. Not sure why (laziness) I put this off as long as I did.
COE arrived today. So 9 1/2 weeks-ish. Still waiting on 03.
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Old 07-07-2017, 2:57 PM
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So I called the ATF today to inquire as to what was taking so long and I got surprisingly good service. The first person I spoke to said that my 03 was in "pending" status, and she couldn't figure out why since it had been so long. She put me through to the examiner who was assigned my application. I left a message and she called back an hour later saying she had approved it and it would go out Monday morning. Even though it was delayed, I'll give them an A for how hey handled it when contacted. Very polite and professional.
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ATF Forms Mailed 4/13/17 C&R Delivered 7/6/17
COE forms Mailed 4/13/17 - Delivered 4/18/17 @ 6:44 am COE Delivered 6/17/17

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The C&R would have probably been 2 weeks earlier if I had put a signature in the CC area.

I told my wife she qualified as a C&R (she's over 50). I slept on the couch last night.
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The C&R would have probably been 2 weeks earlier if I had put a signature in the CC area.

I told my wife she qualified as a C&R (she's over 50). I slept on the couch last night.
Nice. Should mean mine isn't far behind. I haven't been bothered by the wait though, I have zero discretionary income at the moment.
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Everything mailed 4/14/17. Edit: COE arrived 6/22/17. Edit: 03 arrived 7/10/17

Entire process from downloading to mailing took an hour and a half including the drive to the Live Scan. Not sure why (laziness) I put this off as long as I did.
Just as predicted my 03 showed up today. Still broke tho!
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lets keep the trend going....Just mailed out my C&R app today...we'll see how long it takes. I previously had one from 2010 to 2013...hopefully this will speed up the process??
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So I called the ATF today to inquire as to what was taking so long and I got surprisingly good service. The first person I spoke to said that my 03 was in "pending" status, and she couldn't figure out why since it had been so long. She put me through to the examiner who was assigned my application. I left a message and she called back an hour later saying she had approved it and it would go out Monday morning. Even though it was delayed, I'll give them an A for how hey handled it when contacted. Very polite and professional.
What number did you call?
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Never mind. My C&R license came in the mail this morning!!!!
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C&R Mailed:: 7/12/17
CC Charged: 7/18/17
now the wait begins.......do you think i would get it any quicker as i have already had a C&R license?
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All the links to the ATF website form 7 CR are now broken. Does anyone know where I can get the form online?

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Nevermind I remembered that I saved a digital copy back in June
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Mailed 03 FFL application and COE on 5/8/17

Received 03 FFL on 5/30/17
Received COE on 7/24/17

A little longer than i was expecting for the COE, but only like 5 days longer. Still seemed like it took forever.
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So if one is to do this, you just need to submit the ATF E-Form 7(5310.12)/7CR(5310.16) to the ATF, and copy to your CLEO; have a Live Scan done on BCIA 801, then submit BOF 4008 to the DOJ in Sacramento?
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So if one is to do this, you just need to submit the ATF E-Form 7(5310.12)/7CR(5310.16) to the ATF, and copy to your CLEO; have a Live Scan done on BCIA 801, then submit BOF 4008 to the DOJ in Sacramento?
Yup.

Redact your credit card information from the copy that goes to the CLEO.

Here's my "form letter" that I send every 3 years....

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Thanks for the confirmation, will put it all in the mail today. I actually found a similar letter and used it as a template. The PDF form you can download from ATF includes the CLEO copy (that automagically populates as you fill in the main copy), after the instructions and definitions, the CC info is not on that copy.
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The link to the ATF website in the first post of this thread is a dead link.

Upon googling, I can find the ATF's FFL application, here. It appears to be a single application for all FFL types, not just 03.

Is this the correct application?

Also, in the application it states, "A photograph and fingerprint card are not required if you are applying for a Type 03 Collector of Curios and Relics license only."

I keep hearing on these forums that one needs a livescan to get an 03 FFL. But on the form there is no indication that this is true, and it states that you don't even need to send a fingerprint card. Can anyone offer some clarification?

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I keep hearing on these forums that one needs a livescan to get an 03 FFL. But on the form there is no indication that this is true, and it states that you don't even need to send a fingerprint card. Can anyone offer some clarification?
OK upon reading the CA DOJ BOF page on COE, I see that it is California that requires the live scan, not the feds.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cert-eligibility
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OK upon reading the CA DOJ BOF page on COE, I see that it is California that requires the live scan, not the feds.
Correct.
It will be about $75.
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faster then i expected! mailed application for C&R on the 12th of july....charged on the 18th....showed up in the mail yesterday!!! woohoo!!!
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Livescan: 7/27
COE Mailed: 7/28
C&R Mailed: 7/28
C&R Charged: 8/3

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C&R - Mailed 8/23 and CC was charged on 8/28.
COE - Applied online after getting my live scan on 8/25.

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On the FFL form, am I required to fill out Part B, as a responsible person, or is that ONLY for adding addition names, and Part B can be left blank when mailing it in?
I'm assuming not needed; but want to make sure!

EDIT
As I re-read the definition of Responsible Persons, it includes the sole proprietor; which would be me, as holder of the C&R license...
So, I guess I answered my own question with "Yes" fill out part B.
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I surprisingly revived my COE faster than I expected submitted 8/11 and was approved today. Still waiting of the C&R license, hopefully soon.... My credit card was charged the 16th
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Still nothing on mine, did you turn in a paper COE or the online version?
Online. I got mine a lot faster than I was exepecting only thing I can think of is I just had my live scan done 2 weeks prior for my CCW and maybe that's why? Idk kinda doubt it but never know.
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I didn't even see the online option until a couple weeks after I mailed it. Kinda wish I knew that was an option, but at the same time, this gives me a reason to go to the mailbox.
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On 8/19/17 I completed the Livescan, applied for the COE and mailed my FFL 03.
My COE was issued 9/12/17. The website is quirky and would not let me access through my phone. Additionally, I have a suffix to my name which is on my DL and is on my DOJ profile but I can't seem to get to print on the COE or the letter from the AG so I've given up on that for now; deal with it later if it's an issue.

Per my review DOJ is all online for COE now; application to certificate.

Waiting on the FFL now; CC charged about a week after mailing.
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