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CZ 75b SA or CZ P01
Alright here is my situation. I currently have the option to pick up two 75b SA or 75b SA and a P01 (all 9mm). What would you do?
My original plan was to get both SA models and keep one stock and send the other to CZcustoms for a full work over, but then I started to think if I would be better off just getting one of each model to expand my collection. Does someone out there have both? I would appreciate some feedback on pros and cons of the P01 compared to the SAO. I have a SP01 and a standard 75b but have never handled a compact model. Primary use would be for the range. I know im probably being vague, but happy to provide more info to solicit input. My two current CZ's |
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Get 2 SA's!!!
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Are they both 9mm?
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One of both, and a big +1 to CGW>
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Either way sounds like a good deal to me!!
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Yes they are both 9mm
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Zfields I always appreciate your feedback considering you have much more experience with this platform then I. Im just wondering if I will end up regretting getting the P01. I have never been a huge fan of polymer compact guns, but maybe this being an alloy frame it might be different. Is the SP01 accuracy and the P01 comparable? Last edited by SDRider858; 08-30-2012 at 3:33 PM.. |
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I have 2 75B SA's. Both 9mm. One is bone stock + factory rubber grips. The other was sent to CZCustom for a full work over.
If someone (CZ-USA) would come out with a P01 with the frame set up like a 75B SA (SAO with safety) it would be top of my to-buy list.
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I don't own a p01, just no reason to for me personally, its not small enough for me to CCW, and I'd rather shoot a sp01 for competition. I can say just from handling and shooting a couple that they really don't feel like a poly gun, and are very comfortable guns. As for CGW: You can either send the gun in, or buy the kit and do it yourself. Going the kit route is a VERY good way to learn your gun inside and out, and saves you a lot of money. Either way, David from CGW is a great person to talk to, and makes some *very* high quality parts for a very good price. The p01 is a bit of a PITA to work on due to the decocker, but its still manageable. The link in my sig line will cover disassembly and reassembly of it. The 75 SA out of the box is a GREAT gun, and unless you want a very light trigger, is GTG. Swapping over the hammer and to an adjustable sear just makes it even better.
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I think Ill try doing the CGW mods on my 75b, and if it works out well do the same for my SP01 too. I still cant decide what I would like. Considering maybe picking up these two SAs since they arent always around, and picking up a P01 next chance I have. I seem to be changing my mind every 5 minutes. |
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75B/75SA are easy compared to the decocker models.
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i always liked the P01's!
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The P-01 is a smaller, lighter version of the SP-01. If you'd like to have a lighter smaller version of the SP-01 then that makes sense (the P-01 just adds a de-cocker). The P-01 is very, very accurate. I prefer the P series weapons over the older 75 series guns since they are a more modern design built to CZ's newer standards and updated. I also prefer to have a light rail on weapons I may use for HD. Hope this helps, Triple Last edited by TripleThreat; 08-30-2012 at 7:04 PM.. |
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Op- if your ever in Los Angeles hit me up, you can shoot my
P01 if your ever up here!!
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P-01 all the way. Its a tad smaller but just as accurate as the full size 75b's.
But, eather way your golden. Why buy a glock, drive a Honda, and drink budlight when you can buy a cz, drive a Subaru and drink heineken? Last edited by willerfortheworld; 08-30-2012 at 6:13 PM.. |
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Question for P01 owners, does your pinky/ring finger(s) hang off the grip? Or are you able to still grip with all fingers? Im assuming its the former. |
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I have pretty big hands and I dot have an issue with it, unless I think about it lol. If I just draw and shoot it fits like a glove lol. No issues whatsoever.
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Looking at the potential savings has me thinking seriously about doing most if not all the work myself. Im confident working with my hands. Ill be sure to refer to some of your videos before even attempting. Ill let you know how it works out, fingers crossed.
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This still has me sratching my head..not sure what you mean but I dig it...Cheers! |
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Same I'm a CZ whore as well. I want an sp01.
You won't regret the p01, it's an awesome little compact. Shot a small target at about 50 yds away at the rifle range. Plunked that sucker haha
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Triple Last edited by TripleThreat; 08-30-2012 at 7:20 PM.. |
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two 75 SAs, because that's what I did this week!
And definitely recommend either CGW or CZ Custom. I have guns from both, and can't go wrong with either. David from CGW is AWESOME. I stop by his shop in West Monroe, LA about once a week to either drop my own pistols off or a friend's, and it's always good times talking to David. His race hammers and his new sights are freaking beautiful. |
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[QUOTE=daybreak;9236114]two 75 SAs, because that's what I did this week! And definitely recommend either CGW or CZ Custom. I have guns from both, and can't go wrong with either. QUOTE] Didnt you just get two shadows?? Jealous for sure! Quote:
Alright so my dreams of having a modded CZcustoms SA is out of the question, at least for now. I was just informed by the shop that they will not modify the trigger system prior to shipping. Strange, because I have read of cases where this wasnt true, but has anyone else been denied modifications? Stuart said I would need to re ship back to them to have most of the work done, all they were willing to change were the sights. I was trying to save on shipping and that was the entire reason of buying one through them..Ah well, their shop, their rules. But that makes the choice pretty easy for me. Since Ill have to either ship or do the work myself on my current SA, I think its probably best just to get the P01 and expand my CZ collection...or should I get a 97b!!! mmmm hahaha Thanks again all for the input. |
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Alright so my dreams of having a modded CZcustoms SA is out of the question, at least for now. I was just informed by the shop that they will not modify the trigger system prior to shipping. Strange, because I have read of cases where this wasnt true, but has anyone else been denied modifications in CA? Stuart said I would need to re ship back to them to have most of the work done, all they were willing to change were the sights. I was trying to save on shipping and that was the entire reason of buying one through them..Ah well, their shop, their rules. But that makes the choice pretty easy for me. Since Ill have to either ship or do the work myself on my current SA, I think its probably best just to get the P01 and expand my CZ collection...or should I get a 97b!!! mmmm hahaha Thanks again all for the input. |
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I'd say get a p01 over a 97b
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It's my understanding that CZCustoms won't (and shouldn't) do any major modifications to the gun because it would no longer be in a CA-roster approved configuration. What you could do is order the new SA and keep it as the "bone-stock" configuration. You still get the joy of breaking in a new firearm. You then ship out your currently owned SA via Gussler's. My first SA had +10k rounds through it by then so it deserved a makeover. I just dug up my invoice of when I shipped mine out...transfer and shipping + insurance came out to under $60.
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Just another factory standard length barrel. I considered one of the 6" extended barrels but it wasn't in stock at the time.
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Suppressed SP01? That would be fun! All that weight should suck up the recoil.
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Wonder if I can find one that would work with a 357 lever gun...that would be interesting.
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the sights on my P01 are not night sights as they are on the SP01. They have a green paint dot instead of tritium glow in the dark. If you only use it for the range, the SA is a better choice. The P01 is a compact and as such shoots with more recoil. While not unmanageable, it's more tiring and feels different than a full size steel CZ. The decock lever is where my thumb wants to be also. Another suggestion for you is go up to the competition models instead of 2 regular production model. I tried one with a 2.5 lb trigger and it's awesome. |
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Will Hayden: We gotta soo-press this here levah akshun .357 for a guy... Rich Wyatt: Then we're gonna replace the receiver with one made of titanium and have some engraving done by my son Kurt... Will Hayden: And this gamechanger of a rifle can be had... Rich Wyatt: For around...$10k.
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If you do get the p01, please let me know, I really want to try one, I would take you shooting, ill take care of the entry fees at DGM Also, I just dros'ed a RAMI 2075, will take possesion next thursday. (In case you want to try another CZ)
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Oh yeah and I do own an SP-01 Shadow that you can try as well.
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I thought that once a CA resident owns a gun, you can mail it to any gunsmith and that gunsmith can mail it back directly to you? (might be FUD) and that FFL was only required when ownership changed hands? Maybe try David at CGW, I wouldn't hesitate sending him a gun if he could send it back to me without an FFL involved. |
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