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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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California adopts measure to take guns from those in the ‘Hate Crime Loophole’
California adopts measure to take guns from those in the ‘Hate Crime Loophole’
http://www.guns.com/2017/10/18/calif...rime-loophole/ California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a popular bill last week to strip gun rights from those convicted of misdemeanor hate crimes. The Disarm Hate Act, which passed the California Legislature without a single “no” vote, adds to the state’s already existing list of misdemeanor crimes that result in an automatic 10-year prohibition on possessing a firearm. The additions include those who are convicted of misdemeanor interference with another person’s civil rights or damage of property because of their perceived race, religion, national origin, disability, gender, or sexual orientation. Violations would be a felony and result in a lifetime gun ban, up to a year in jail, and fines of $1,000. |
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Is this because Jerry Brown Loves Crime?
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Am I to understand, that not only did Republicans vote for this, but that ALL 38 Repubs in the legislature voted for this? Am I reading this right? Is this bill really such a wonderful idea, that all the GOP supported it as well?
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Insane!
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So how long until calling a non gender conforming, owl kin, 35 year old, biological male, who identifies as a 11 year old female, and uses the pronouns owshe, owher, owhers.. how long until calling it him is classified as a hate crime? It's coming. Don't think it isn't.
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I think we've already fallen over the edge for that there slope and are on the downward plunge.
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Almost, there were 3 Republican Assembly members that didn't vote.
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Never plead guilty. To anything. Ever.
Always get the best attorney you can afford, and fight every single thing with all you got. Always make the other side fight for every victory. Be willing to clog the courts. Never compromise. Not even on a traffic ticket. Make California spend $$$ and hundreds of hours to do anything with/to you. Don't talk to cops. Not a word. Make them work for every single thing. Unless the state has an airtight case on stuff, they tend to lose. Or, even better, the D.A. has a tendency to drop cases, IF the defendant pleads not guilty AND he(the D.A.) thinks there is a chance he may not win. Never plead guilty. Fight with all you have, to the very end.
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Every day, it seems, I ask where am I going and how did I get into this handbasket?! |
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Yup. This right here. If you call him a him cuz that’s how he was born, and he is delusional to think he’s a she or otherwise, we’re hateful and guilty of a hate crime. Didn’t they just pass a law like this in CA?
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I think that law was just nursing homes, but I'm sure it will soon apply to the general population. Just like in Canada.
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There are so many protected classes in this state and equal rights are a joke. Creating every possible form of prohibited person out of otherwise law abiding folk is their way of invalidating the 2A here.
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This is nothing more than a convenient tool to suppress enemies
Suppose you get drunk and use a Sharpie to draw a Hitler mustache on a poster featuring a member of LBGQT? That’s vandalism with a ‘Hate Crime’ addition.
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Just another of the many many ways to skin a cat.
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And how protected do you think your comments are on this site? How would you like a prosecutor using what you published on this site against you because he and DOJ decide to label this site a hate site without any due process or evidence of same. It is known as law by administrative ruling not court ruling.
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According to the author (of the bill)...
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The list of included misdemeanors will grow as more and more groups are tagged: "These individuals present a unique and growing threat to public safety and are not the 'law-abiding, responsible citizens' that the Supreme Court deemed entitled to exercise the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment." |
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Just a matter of time, folks.
Just a matter of time, before these overbearing, over-legislating, Constitution-despising fascists poke the wrong bear, at the wrong time. Might be today, might be tomorrow, might be next month. May be awhile, before it happens. But happen it will.
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They need to add gun haters to the denied list. That would eliminate everyone who pitches a gun law meaning they would be unable to defend themselves or family - like they have denied for us.
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Depends on who gets to define what a "hate crime" is.
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I was thinking the same thing.
On top of that I was wondering how many people on this forum will ever have contact with a transgender person. Only reason I mention transexual and gay people is because they're the example that is being used on the forum. They're like .01% of the population and gays are maybe 7% of the population. If you know anyone who's been committed of a hate crime you should ask them what happened and then see if you could see yourself doing that but then again you all probably don't know anyone who's been committed of a hate crime.
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I wish!
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It's never, ever been about anything else.
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Nah. Criminals don't obey laws.
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How to take rights away from the sheeple of the state of Kalifornia.
Step 1: make most all things a crime. Step 2: make most all crime an automatic ban in gun ownership. Step 3: proceed to claim you haven't banned gun ownership.
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