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Old 11-12-2019, 2:29 PM
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do you have a milling reticle?



hogs are probably tough because they change directions.

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Or an ACSS reticle, like the Griffin:


I have a scope with the Raptor:


The HUD DMR might be best for hunting:
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Old 11-12-2019, 3:29 PM
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I'm surprised no one has suggested an RC car. Attach a target to whip so it is above the car (don't shoot the car) or even use a helium balloon on a string.
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Old 11-12-2019, 3:41 PM
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I'm out on the scopes with overly complicated reticles. Too many folks get lost in it, and then quickly move back to the center as their game animal is just about gone. They often end up throwing a shot, in hopes that they score a decent enough hit.
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Old 11-12-2019, 5:49 PM
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If you are referring to me, I'll just leave this here:
I wasn’t at all referring to you. I actually believe we're saying the exact same thing: it's not easy, and also practice.

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Found this too. Same guy as in the other video I posted, I think.

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If it's a deer or elk on the run, my rule of thumb is that the target has to be moving at a steady pace at 100 yards or less. I generally start my swing at the rear of the animal and when my crosshairs get to the front line (brisket) of the animal I slap the trigger like a shotgun. Maybe I'm just lucky but it's worked for me on half a dozen deer to elk sized animals.

On animals running directly away from me, I hold for the base of the skull. If I shoot high it's a head shot or clean miss, and if I shoot low it's a neck shot or Texas heart shot.
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Trump does it by tweeting...
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I figure, at some point, one of these pigs are going to take off running on me...
Practice???
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Old 11-16-2019, 5:37 PM
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++1 on the RR!

Lever action with iron sights just works!
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Shoot clays.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:41 AM
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Moving targets are either birds, small game, large game or humans.

BIRDS; trap and skeet are the best means of training, second get a friend with a hand trap and go practice.

SMALL GAME; get a .22 rifle and go find some cottontails and jack rabbits.

LARGE GAME; I limit my moving shots on large game to them walking. It they are running, your chance at hitting them are minimal, unless you have a lot of practice on moving targets. Big game deserves our respect of not taking a shot unless it is going to put them down.

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Practice???
Gee, thanks... that had NEVER occurred to me.
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BFG, the offer of a joint boar hunt is still open. As soon as freedom day arrives!
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The best way to assure an humane kill on running big game is wait for it to to stop running ;-)
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Like i said earlier, I'm concerned with the animal taking off AFTER i shot it.

Hasn't happened yet, but it will, I'm sure.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:11 PM
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Like i said earlier, I'm concerned with the animal taking off AFTER i shot it.

Hasn't happened yet, but it will, I'm sure.
You need to learn how to follow a blood trail. Have some toilet paper on you, and leave a piece of toilet paper on each drop of blood. This will give you an indication of where the animal is going.
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The best way to assure an humane kill on running big game is wait for it to to stop running ;-)
It seems like all that would assure is that the animal runs off.

While i agree with your ethic a more practical answer is to practice shooting how you expect to hunt.

I see these TV shows of whitetail hunters from a tree stand and their ethic is nothing but a broadside, standing shot......and still the animal almost always runs off and needs to be blood trailed for only taking a heart/lung shot.

How dumb is that? not dumb at all if it's just a matter of how far out into the cornfield the buck will go.

If i jump a buck with my dog in the Sierras i'm going to time my shot for the apex of his stott and be using a much handier rifle than what the guy in a tree stand is using and take any other good shot i have if the dog isn't involved.

I don't mean heart/lung since there are no cornfields up there.

Neither me or the guy in a tree stand should be shooting at the running boar in the vid i put up i just wanted to point out there are shooting skills that can be developed.

The ethic of it is in taking a shot you have a high degree of confidence in being lethal and humane.

If i was going to be going to Europe to shoot boar i would make a few trips over to Nevada and shoot jack rabbits in open desert on the run at different and unknown speeds and distances.
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First you must practice catching flies with chop sticks.
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Old 12-14-2019, 9:00 PM
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This is where calculus comes into play along with range and speed estimation.
The local club used to have a running deer target great practice.
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It seems like all that would assure is that the animal runs off.

While i agree with your ethic a more practical answer is to practice shooting how you expect to hunt.

I see these TV shows of whitetail hunters from a tree stand and their ethic is nothing but a broadside, standing shot......and still the animal almost always runs off and needs to be blood trailed for only taking a heart/lung shot.

How dumb is that? not dumb at all if it's just a matter of how far out into the cornfield the buck will go.

If i jump a buck with my dog in the Sierras i'm going to time my shot for the apex of his stott and be using a much handier rifle than what the guy in a tree stand is using and take any other good shot i have if the dog isn't involved.

I don't mean heart/lung since there are no cornfields up there.

Neither me or the guy in a tree stand should be shooting at the running boar in the vid i put up i just wanted to point out there are shooting skills that can be developed.

The ethic of it is in taking a shot you have a high degree of confidence in being lethal and humane.

If i was going to be going to Europe to shoot boar i would make a few trips over to Nevada and shoot jack rabbits in open desert on the run at different and unknown speeds and distances.
I am not being critical of you, but I can tell that you have limited experience in encountering deer in the field. Just to illustrate the point, deer spend about 90% of their time slowly walking and standing still. They conserve their energy, and only run when they are spooked. If you are hunting them, you really don't need to take running shots.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:16 PM
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I grew up hunting Jack Rabbits and got pretty good hitting them on the run with my 9422M
A running deer would one of the most difficult shots to make they do not run anywhere close to straight they can and will easily jump 7 or 8 feet IMO pigs are much easier.
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Lot of good thoughts here so I won't repeat any of them.

One thing I have found helpful to do when shooting at an animal -- standing still, running, or anything in between -- is once I've identified an animal I want to shoot, I tuck the animal idea away, especially if it's a good buck, and concentrate on making the shot on what is just a "target." I have a couple of hunting buddies who always get excited when going to take a shot, especially if it's running, a big buck, or both, so they miss a lot. I tell them they have to calm down and explain what I do. It helps.
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