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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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So wait did you watch the desert video? Are you saying MC bended in? Ahaha dude get your eyes checked!
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I guess you missed the part in my reply that I'm no expert and neither are you. reread the post you might catch it. better yet here it is. I take it you missed that part.
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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I am an expert.There is a reason the Army seeked me out .That's the part your missing. Been at it for 10 years and have made patterns that are way better then MC. Even my B patterns work better. Look how bright n stupid MC looks here. Notice the hole in my boot! This is a pattern that has not even been color matched and works better then MC. This is the best woodland pattern ever made.look again to the right of Marpat. Same pattern Here your MC takes 3rd sticking out,second to Marpat and 1rst to my pattern.
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There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there. PUREMMA MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY Last edited by 1lostinspace; 12-29-2014 at 5:10 PM.. |
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
MC or OCP does not blend in arid areas its too green. Desert Marpat dominated arid areas, woodland marpat woods UCP urban/nvg and has the ability to loose outline past 300m almost everywhere. Another thing everyone is missing they look at it 10 feet away. MC blends in with light vegetated areas like Arizona,New mexico and others but not in california deserts, green woods,urban, or arctic. Mean while patterns that actually work like mine, desert brush, mirage and others get shelved. Its all about the money. Ever wondered why every M4 does not have a Vortex flash suppressor or why Dragon skin never made it?
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you were never in any serious consideration they were asking for many samples from lots of vendors the Army has to do that. no one source is allowed in the bidding process. it's a big boy game you were trying to get into.
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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Chris stfu! Now you were part of the solicitation ahaha. Get the furk out of here! Ok dude MC rocks and everything else sucks.
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here is what I was trying to tell you.
http://kitup.military.com/2010/11/br...mpetition.html Quote:
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http://www.hyperstealth.com/scorpion/ is this the desert version of MC you are referring too? the one on the top? Quote:
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I remember the article when they went to Afghanistan to test the new camo they were shot at, RPG'd and ambushed. needless to say those guys risked their lives testing the camo. http://www.hyperstealth.com/scorpion/ Quote:
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go ahead and call it MC fan boy. this page was rather interesting in information regarding the new uniform. not much info was ever released.
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or you mean thread nice to see you lose your cool . resorting to profanity and name calling are signs of a sore loser . not once did I tell to STFU or get out of here. even though you censored yourself it's apparent that cussing at someone challenging you is what you don't like. and my first post wasn't inflammatory it was a suggestion to get acronyms straight. as I stated earlier many people get UCP and ACU confused. it's very easy to do so.
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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Omg! You really think I don't know or have seen all this crap you regurgitate before? Please go away with your google kung fu.
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you can either answer them or step away. you cant stand someone who researched a topic and posted information to it and questioned you? looks like you cant do that. interesting you say you have seen it all before and not one mention of it.
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Been asking lost to do that for a few years on here. He never puts his money where his mouth is.
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Dude your 3 years behind go away!
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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have any idea what it cost for a run? Everyone I have approached so far attempts to steal it. It's much harder and expensive then you think. I want this made more then anyone. I have had several Chinese companies approach me but I know better then that.
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nice "tests"
Multicam outperformed UCP in the Armys 2007-2008 testing This is a good read, for anyone who is interested: Part 1: http://www.hyperstealth.com/camo-improvement/ |
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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UCP really becomes effective further out, what the eye sees at 100m is not the same 300m+ light patterns perform better at range then darker ones also these tests were flawed and the original UCP was almost white and blue the fire retarded version is more khaki and sage then white tan n blue. You can see the same patterns get different results years later different locations. The Brit stuff is not as good as Marpat nor is anything else listed. The Chinese wood pattern that won the wood test is great with full sun on it but as soon as you view it different angles it appears black or too dark and forget tree canopy Marpat is way better. MC is great for areas that look like it green light brown fields, rustic rocks with veg and a lot of other places but make no mistake you go into an arid area or green and it fails. Check out this Russian test UCP looks silly up close but observe it further out, notice how well it and MC performed further out compared to others. http://youtu.be/tOU5Ha3fIcs Is UCP the best for arid desert? No but better then green MC, Marpat is a work of art and was the hardest pattern for me to overcome. My pattern on left marpat on right. Step away from the screen and notice mine start to loose outline.
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Like I said your years behind.
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Plus in between laughing there's some good infos such as the link that JGalt posted. Good stuff.
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That's mainly written by Crammer, he lacks the understanding of color reaction at distance. I met him several times at Shot all he talked about is Light Bender but I have not seen it nor do I believe it works as advertised. http://www.hyperstealth.com/Quantum-Stealth/
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Yes works good
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Best comment so far IMHO its as simple as that green does not blend in as good as tan in the desert. Billions of dollars later to come to a no brainer!
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No I have not, it looks like it would do an ok job. I like lighter greens instead of dark browns n greens they turn black when not enough light is on them.
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I agree as well. What I don't get is why actual video is ignored! Its speaks for its self MC did good in woods and sucked in our deserts. End of story don't understand the MC fan boys.
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You said before that you really were an 'expert' in camo. What kind of credentials does a camo-expert have? I assume it'd have to be a physiology based field when dealing with the way our eyes/brains perceive patterns and colors. Is that correct?
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I've worked with all 3 types, working with the army and marine corps, I'm a marine, and what I've seen work best is the multi cam. Sure there are exceptions, but it works better. The ghillie suit, great is your in a fixed position and really know how to camouflage. It's not made to move, if you move it's very very slow.
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As I said, put your money where your mouth is
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You can google my field test.
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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What makes you think camo is the only thing I do. I hold several patents some of my projects were funded. In due time this will get picked up as well. You want to act like idiot and say oh put your money where your mouth is, you have no idea how much time,money and effort I have put in this. You can't just go to an existing company and say here print this.
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Now quit complaining and put your money where your mouth is.
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Multicam as good as they say? Far from it!
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No you have not where? In 29palms? Of camp Pendleton? You have never seen MC outperform Marpat in arid or woodland.
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Cool invest in it!
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Have you seen Cadpat?
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This thread is quite fun. Interesting to see the banter and troll feeding. But also great info too.
Lost - people here really are your friends (I think). You might get more appreciation and cooperation if you didn't react to every disagreeing opinion with so much vitriol. It's awesome to see so much conviction behind your ideas. Just maybe keep an open mind to those whose opinions are not as impassioned. This is a serious idea (although admittedly far-fetched) - have you ever thought of trying something like Shark Tank? |
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Yes I have but its a lot easier to team up with a company with a foot in the industry instead of starting from scratch. Its not just printing but marketing and over all corp infrastructure. Right now my time is tied up.
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Why should I risk my money in something that you won't risk your money in?
This is my point. You want people to fund you except you aren't willing to stand behind your product and put your own money down. You want a paycheck, not an investor. This is why this has gone nowhere and wil continue to go nowhere as long as you have that attitude.
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