WTB: Pepper Spray Paintballs

[professionalcoyotehunter]

I need some of these for around my neighborhood. Can anyone direct me where to get some more. I got some while I was in Missouri last time and they worked awesome for bears and rowdy neighbors and cats.

[18sam2011]

www.pepperball.com


We use their pepperball launchers at work. Great products.

Check with them, although I think they might only sell to LE agencies...

[professionalcoyotehunter]

I will check it out.

[leitung]

Note these are illegal for civilian posession in California:

12403.7. Notwithstanding any other law, any person may purchase,
possess, or use tear gas and tear gas weapons for the projection or
release of tear gas if the tear gas and tear gas weapons are used
solely for self-defense purposes, subject to the following
requirements:
(a) No person convicted of a felony or any crime involving an
assault under the laws of the United States, the State of California,
or any other state, government, or country or convicted of misuse of
tear gas under subdivision (g) shall purchase, possess, or use tear
gas or tear gas weapons.
(b) No person who is addicted to any narcotic drug shall purchase,
possess, or use tear gas or tear gas weapons.
(c) No person shall sell or furnish any tear gas or tear gas
weapon to a minor.
(d) No person who is a minor shall purchase, possess, or use tear
gas or tear gas weapons.
(e) (1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas
weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any
method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5
ounces net weight of aerosol spray.
(2) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be
lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant to this section
shall have a label that states: "WARNING: The use of this substance
or device for any purpose other than self-defense is a crime under
the law. The contents are dangerous--use with care."
(3) After January 1, 1984, every tear gas container and tear gas
weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant
to this section shall have a label that discloses the date on which
the useful life of the tear gas weapon expires.
(4) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be
lawfully purchased pursuant to this section shall be accompanied at
the time of purchase by printed instructions for use.
(f) Effective March 1, 1994, every tear gas container and tear gas
weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant
to this section shall be accompanied by an insert including
directions for use, first aid information, safety and storage
information, and explanation of the legal ramifications of improper
use of the tear gas container or tear gas product.
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in
self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years
or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed
one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment,
except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in
Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2,
engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the
person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that
the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or
by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and
imprisonment.

However if you are LEO, you are good.

[professionalcoyotehunter]

[blackberg]

these are not teargas though
-bb

[sorensen440]

Originally Posted by leitung

Note these are illegal for civilian posession in California:



However if you are LEO, you are good.

Is pepper spray the same as teargas ?

Ive wondered also about the kimber lifeact pepper spray units as they use an explosive force to propel the spray

[professionalcoyotehunter]

Not as far as I know.

[BONECUTTER]

Originally Posted by sorensen440

Ive wondered also about the kimber lifeact pepper spray units as they use an explosive force to propel the spray

The kimber is an aerosol spray and holds 2.5 so its good to go....high pressure yes....explosive no.

[sorensen440]

Originally Posted by BONECUTTER

The kimber is an aerosol spray and holds 2.5 so its good to go....high pressure yes....explosive no.

Looks like Kimber has replaced it with the "pepper blaster"

Here is what I was able to find on it on another site

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=102415

The new LifeAct Guardian Angel is the most advanced non-lethal self defense tool available today. It renders conventional pepper sprays obsolete and stops threats at a safe distance. Small, light and ergonomic, it carries easily in pocket or purse, and an integral clip also secures it to a belt. The outer body conforms to either a right or left-hand grip, and fits almost any size hand. The Guardian Angel contains two cylinders with powerful concentrations of near pharmaceutical grade OC (oleoresin capsicum), a devastatingly effective inflammatory agent. Driven by pyrotechnic charges, the solution travels at 90 MPH with little chance of cross-contamination, and with enough energy to wrap around glasses or penetrate a face mask. Effect is immediate and lasts for up to 45 minutes. Unlike conventional sprays, the Guardian Angel does not lose pressure over time.




Also on Kimbers pepperblaster site they state that the pepper blaster is powered by pyrotecnic charges http://www.pepperblaster.com/

[leitung]

Originally Posted by sorensen440

Is pepper spray the same as teargas ?

Ive wondered also about the kimber lifeact pepper spray units as they use an explosive force to propel the spray

12401.  "Tear gas" as used in this chapter shall apply to and
include all liquid, gaseous or solid substances intended to produce
temporary physical discomfort or permanent injury through being
vaporized or otherwise dispersed in the air, but does not apply to,
and shall not include, any substance registered as an economic poison
as provided in Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 12751) of Division
7 of the Agricultural Code provided that such substance is not
intended to be used to produce discomfort or injury to human beings.



12402.  The term "tear gas weapon" as used in this chapter shall
apply to and include:
   (a) Any shell, cartridge, or bomb capable of being discharged or
exploded, when the discharge or explosion will cause or permit the
release or emission of tear gases.
   (b) Any revolvers, pistols, fountain pen guns, billies, or other
form of device, portable or fixed, intended for the projection or
release of tear gas except those regularly manufactured and sold for
use with firearm ammunition.

[JagerTroop]

..."Tear gas" as used in this chapter shall apply to and
include all liquid, gaseous or solid substances intended to produce
temporary physical discomfort...

This sounds like every regular paintball I've ever been shot with

[Spade421]

pepper spray and tear gas are not the same !

[bohoki]

Originally Posted by DJ.223

pepper spray and tear gas are not the same !

i thought not but that one definition seems to include capcicum

back in the 90s i got a tear gas permit for cn cs sprays but at the time pepper spray was comming out and you didnt need a permit for that

[Spade421]

Capsaicin is found in peppers that's what makes them spicy so it is a natural product.

Tear gas is a chemical agent that is man made.

Capsaicin is an involuntary action meaning even if you cant feel the burn it (on drugs ect) it still causes your eyes to swell shut and inflammation of the lungs causing reduced breathing capability.

Tear gas is a voluntary reaction meaning if you can't feel pain or have a high tolerance for pain it will be less effective then pepper spray.

I think tear gas is illegal because it's easy to spread the contamination and the effects of the gas and residue can last for days.

Originally Posted by bohoki

i thought not but that one definition seems to include capcicum

back in the 90s i got a tear gas permit for cn cs sprays but at the time pepper spray was comming out and you didnt need a permit for that

[felixthecat1]

Originally Posted by DJ.223

Capsaicin is found in peppers that's what makes them spicy so it is a natural product.

Tear gas is a chemical agent that is man made.

Capsaicin is an involuntary action meaning even if you cant feel the burn it (on drugs ect) it still causes your eyes to swell shut and inflammation of the lungs causing reduced breathing capability.

Tear gas is a voluntary reaction meaning if you can't feel pain or have a high tolerance for pain it will be less effective then pepper spray.

I think tear gas is illegal because it's easy to spread the contamination and the effects of the gas and residue can last for days.

oh yes, this is true... one thing to keep in mind, if u get tear gassed, or pepper sprayed (either really), be very,very careful when you shower, as the crap will run into your eyes from your hair, and it'll be like reliving the entire situation all over again.
(speaking from experience)

[556fmj]

The pepperball guns we use at work are just that regular old paintball guns from the pepperball corp. The pepper balls itself is powder form of the OC.