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Old 04-03-2019, 3:54 PM
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Just talked to my cousin who works at Turner's Outdoorsman in west covina. He said a bunch of DOJ thugs went to his store in force today. They were apparently looking for some guy that was trying to PPT some guns. While they were there they told the staff that they are now combing the ranges checking for compliance now that all these mags are flowing in. They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.

Take this for what it's worth. Just thought I'd pass this info along.

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DOJ JBTs doing what they do. Creating FUD.
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Anyone still running maglock is crazy.
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Just talked to my cousin who works at Turner's Outdoorsman in west covina. He said a bunch of DOJ thugs went to his store in force today. They were apparently looking for some guy that was trying to PPT some guns. While they were there they told the staff that they are now combing the ranges checking for compliance now that all these mags are flowing in. They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.

Take this for what it's worth. Just thought I'd pass this info along.
Don't you mean LCM into a maglocked ...?
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Well a standard capacity to them is large the OP, I believe, was just speaking correct terminology?
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I really think the thread below needs to be stickied:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1522040

I didn't know until I read it.
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Old 04-03-2019, 4:25 PM
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Don't you mean LCM into a maglocked ...?
Noooooo.... i mean SCM (standard cap mags, aka 30 rounders). remember, don't get caught up buying into the left's made up "LCM" terminology.
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Well a standard capacity to them is large the OP, I believe, was just speaking correct terminology?

yes, you are correct.
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... They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.
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Seems pretty hypocritical.

SF demanded, "Stay out of our bedrooms and allow us to put it in what we want" and Sacramento granted their demands.

Maybe we should do the same and demand, "Stay out of our gun ranges and allow us to put it in what we want" ???
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Still looking for a difference between the government and the mafia. That kind of intimidation just a different form of organized crime.

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I thought SCM was small capacity magazine. My bad.
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Was it necessary to send in all those agents to see if someone was inside a store. Sounds like a B.S. explanation for intimidation tactics
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Still looking for a difference between the government and the mafia. That kind of intimidation just a different form of organized crime.

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The mafia does not have a pension and benefits anywhere near like the state.
Also, the mafia will fire/kill you, the state never fires you.
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Have you figured out a way to go featureless on an AR pistol?


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Turn it into a featureless rifle.
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While they were there they told the staff that they are now combing the ranges checking for compliance now that all these mags are flowing in. They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.
Yeah, that sounds like an ideal case to get the AW laws tossed out.



What if they catch a guy with a featureless rifle but who is running an old school BB? Are the DOJ agents going to be swift enough to realize that isn't an illegal configuration? Arrest him and maybe he has a "1983" case...?

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They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.
Seems to me that they've given up on any confiscation of "LCMs" in this state, even if the PC is currently dead per a Federal judge's order.

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While they were there they told the staff that they are now combing the ranges checking for compliance now that all these mags are flowing in. They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.
DOJ flexing but they have no way to police every single range and every single shooter at all times. Typical DOJ intimidation tactics.
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Have you figured out a way to go featureless on an AR pistol?


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Bolt Action.

http://www.jlbillet.com/kalikey

If you are in a free state - simply swap out your KaliKey bolt for a standard bolt and charging handle and you are semi-auto again.
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Given a choice between the Mafia and the state or Fed. Govt.? I'll take my chances with the Mafia every time.
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I know Turners has long wait times, but why would some doing a ppt be there long enough for the DOJ to arrive.
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because it's BS. DOJ isn't wasting time with this
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Yeah, you get rid of the semi auto feature - if you didn’t have the foresight to reg it as AW.
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Given a choice between the Mafia and the state or Fed. Govt.? I'll take my chances with the Mafia every time.


Man, the state can’t even keep up with convicted felons that still have guns registered to them. The mafia is cold, efficient and ruthless. State employees have pensions and 40 hour work weeks. I’ll take my chances with incompetent bureaucrats.


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Jack-booted government thugs looking for the crime of the century.
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What about all the prohibited persons with 80 percent builds?? Hell, you can make a Glock with a dremel these days. Government is trying to give the illusion they have control over what’s going on, it’s a free for all at this point with the 80 percent builds and now standard capacity mags.
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Yeah, you get rid of the semi auto feature - if you didn’t have the foresight to reg it as AW.

So put the factory non-semi auto upper back on? No thanks.

Semiauto with Kingpin and Armaglock gen2 is night and day better than manually operating an AR.

Try both you’ll see what I’m talking about. Manually cycling an AR BLOWS!

And registering as an AW was not an option...no time machine.

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What about all the prohibited persons with 80 percent builds?? Hell, you can make a Glock with a dremel these days. Government is trying to give the illusion they have control over what’s going on, it’s a free for all at this point with the 80 percent builds and now standard capacity mags.


Yeah. It’s telling that they are devoting resources to troll legal businesses and spend time visiting people that made mistakes on registration rather than going after prohibited possessors. Also because there’s no risk in going after otherwise law abiding people.


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This sounds like total BS to me, how on earth is DOJ going to have enough man power to do this? And some shooting ranges are members only too, they can't even get in unless someone let them in.

The only time I know about DOJ showing up at the gun club I go to, is to perform inspection of our FFL office (our club is also a FFL).
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Update: After checking in his firearm with 15 individuals at the service desk, waiting 4 hours for his number to be called in the bait/tackle department, signing 317 DROS forms, initialing 866 affidavits, standing in 12 different lines, speaking with 16 different employees (including 3 different managers), submitting 22 forms of ID, and helping the 16-yo cashier find her red stamp...the man finally abandoned the PPT and turned himself in to the authorities where he asked for a Pysych Eval.

Turners broke him.
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Man, the state can’t even keep up with convicted felons that still have guns registered to them. The mafia is cold, efficient and ruthless. State employees have pensions and 40 hour work weeks. I’ll take my chances with incompetent bureaucrats.


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But who is it that is sending gangs of brainwashed goons in body armor to people's homes and demanding to see that AR you just registered in good faith to comply with the law but, has a screw in the wrong place in the picture you sent them?
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Take this for what it's worth.
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Just talked to my cousin who works at Turner's Outdoorsman in west covina. He said a bunch of DOJ thugs went to his store in force today. They were apparently looking for some guy that was trying to PPT some guns. While they were there they told the staff that they are now combing the ranges checking for compliance now that all these mags are flowing in. They said if anyone is caught putting a SCM into a maglocked gun they are going to the slammer and prosecuted.

Take this for what it's worth. Just thought I'd pass this info along.
hmmmm.......there are a lot of armed people.....at any range I've ever been to.......also most ranges have a tractor.....to MOVE DIRT.......and rebuild the berms.........hmmmm.
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Given a choice between the Mafia and the state or Fed. Govt.? I'll take my chances with the Mafia every time.
This! At least the mafia rewards hard work lol.
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Guys I think we should listen to the OP. After all, have you ever heard anything but complete legal accuracy from a Turners employee?
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Sounds like some made up bs story. Why would DOJ agents tell some random employee their plan to visit ranges? Your cousin is a goof.
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Man, the state can’t even keep up with convicted felons that still have guns registered to them. The mafia is cold, efficient and ruthless. State employees have pensions and 40 hour work weeks. I’ll take my chances with incompetent bureaucrats.


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Was not there something about CA DOJ firearms bureau not able to hire enough agents because the salary was not competitive? So incompetent agents running around thinking they can do anything and looking like the guys on Cops. Not that worried.

I also grew up hearing my parents describe how the ATF agents behaved in the local treasury office ahead of a raid. I'd be more worried about ADs when they show up at your door.
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Yeah. It’s telling that they are devoting resources to troll legal businesses and spend time visiting people that made mistakes on registration rather than going after prohibited possessors. Also because there’s no risk in going after otherwise law abiding people.


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It is kind of surprising that the probation/parole agents aren't taking care of the illegal possessors at the time they become clients. You would figure that would take care of most of the problem.

It is also funny to hear how they actually try to clear the list of illegal possessors. The process seemed to be organized to provide entertainment to the citizenry, like a clown performance in the plaza square.
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I really think the thread below needs to be stickied:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1522040

I didn't know until I read it.
I don't understand how someone would NOT know this. It was law before the mag ban was struck down and it remains law after the mag ban was struck down.
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But who is it that is sending gangs of brainwashed goons in body armor to people's homes and demanding to see that AR you just registered in good faith to comply with the law but, has a screw in the wrong place in the picture you sent them?


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