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Old 07-15-2019, 1:44 PM
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May we say that a stranger barging into one's campsite late at night as in OP's situation is like a stranger barging into your home at night? I can sense the tenseness of such a situation for OP and his family.
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^ ^ ^ That's correct.

Even in the Old Days, a (horseback) rider NEVER just strolled into an unknown campsite without hollering first, "Hallo-o-o the camp!" unless they had a death wish.

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Old 07-15-2019, 1:49 PM
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As a kid camping with my parents, we had a few randoms wander up. Either trying to get in to the tent or tripping on guy wires. They were always drunk people. Sometimes they got their tent confused.

This wasn't California though, it was the midwest.
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You know, one thing struck me. What if you get into a situation like this where they WILL NOT LEAVE, even when confronted with armed people? I can see myself saying "get the F outa here" and them saying "no" and continuing to encroach on the belief that you won't shoot them.

I bet this sort of thing happens a lot where armed people get taken down because criminals know citizens are sort of primed NOT to shoot.

I guess you would have to almost literally draw a line in the sand and say "if you cross this threshold you are getting a bullet" or something.
If things get uncomfortable enough, it's probably time to load up and retreat. Have the armed person(s) keep their attention on the bad guy(s), have everyone else chuck all the gear into the vehicles/pack up.

It's not a "heroic/cool/etc" thing to say, but the question is: what is important?

Keep the kids safe, and avoid getting into a gunfight/shooting if at all possible.

You can be in the right, legally speaking, and still be "victimized" by both the criminal and civil legal system. Shelling out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for lawyers, and possibly a year or two of stress? No thanks.

As well, say you have a similar confrontation and the guy leaves. Who is to say that he won't come back? Or maybe decide to snipe at the party with a 22 from standoff? Or...? Crazy/psycho people are crazy/psycho.

It's probably excessive... but I'd be tempted to move camp/leave. As the saying goes, it's not the odds, but rather the stakes. Better to have a "ruined" camping weekend than some possible bad alternatives.

I think that the OP's decision to take a drive and confirm that the bad guy left the area was a smart thing to do.

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I'd rather be alive to face the charges of bringing a firearm into a state park than be dead with the engraving on my headstone reading "He always followed every law to a tee."

I bet Tristan Beaudette would agree with me.

If it's buried in your backpack, who's to know?
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Separate question: If you go to a campsite, not in the National Park service, or the State Parks--say, the Santa Cruz KOA campgrounds, would this also be a candidate for bringing camping protection? Where does one of these campsites fit in the scheme of legal carrying of firearms? Would I need to just pack the ammo in a locked container?
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How do campsites work in regards to castle doctrine? If someone is in your house you're presumed to be under threat of death or serious bodily harm. Is the campsite defined the same way, or just the tent/camper?

RVs are pretty clearly defined as a residence once they're set up to spend the night. On the road they're vehicles. Tents are tricky, because they provide no security. Once someone is in the tent, it's closer than bad breath distance. Obviously if someone is a clear threat, it doesn't matter where they are. Retreating isn't an option when there are kids in the tent either.

I would worry about drawing a gun on some idiot walking through your campsite late at night, only to have the cops show up an hour later and detain or arrest you for brandishing.

It may be a good idea to call the cops if just to report it. That way, if the guy decides to call them too, they at least know your side of the story. They could also drive around the area and keep an eye out, so you don't have to. Low lives aren't above calling the cops. If it's them calling in a "man with gun" that threatened them, I don't want to be the "man with gun". That's a great way to get woken up again with loudspeakers and spotlights.

If you're out of cell range, then maybe elSquid's suggestion is right. Pack it up and move.
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My dad told me about the many weirdos he encountered while camping. Some of them are armed and fired off rounds on the campgrounds. One guy had all his teeth sharpened to look like canines. Then there was his Bigfoot encounter as well (seriously). I would be armed because there are bad people looking for isolated victims. So many go missing from our national parks.

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Campgrounds always have attracted seedy characters. Now tgey are true homeless tweaker havens.

It doesn't help that many sex offenders are paroled to yucca valley.
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Good story.

This is why you camp in places that don't have names.
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Old 07-15-2019, 4:32 PM
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I've had pretty good luck at campgrounds over the years. One time though at Casper's in South OC was camping with a group and at 1 in the morning a pickup truck pulls into the parking lot and starts doing donuts, getting hung up on a log. My friend and I went over to look and it was a couple tweakers (man and a woman). Eventually they got it off the log and left. In this case they didn't look like they were casing the camp sites, just hammered. One of the guys in our group was an off duty Federal agent so I felt safer (that was before I got my CCW).
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OP-Thank you for sharing your story and very glad that it ended well for you and yours.

Although I've only been camping once since I got into guns, I did bring my guns into my tent and had it loaded and ready next to me. The wife and I don't like boonie camping since we prefer developed camp sites (showers, toilets etc), so the neighbors are usually very close to you.

A number of years ago up in Van Damme State Park (before we were armed), while at a grocery store for supplies, I saw the news stand out front that said that there was a serial killer up in the Mendocino forest shooting at deputies and to be on the lookout. Totally freaked out. Escorted my wife to the bathroom at night. Discovered how weak and piddly of a flashlight a Maglight really is. (Yay Fenix PD35!!). Long story short, I didn't died.
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Ive been concerned since that guy got shot in his tent in Malibu Creek State Park. I've been an outdoors guy hiking, kayaking and sometime camping up and down PCH, the Kern and surrounding areas over the last 20 years. I have read and heard reports of people getting murdered while camping over that time. I feel a few of them are related due to the circumstances that have been reported. BCOT.
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If you have a camper, you can have a shotgun around.
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I have been thinking about getting one of these to give me a heads up when camping. I sleep hard, and I need an early warning.

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Good report.

Am important point, bushes are concealment, boulders would be cover.

You can shoot through concealment, and so can the bad guys.
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Damn that's not good news OP. Glad you and the other fathers were armed to deal with it. My wife and I went camping in Joshua Tree NP years ago while we were first dating. Everyone around us seemed like good people and it was a great time. Music, people drinking and campfires all around. No bad vibes whatsoever. I still had my 590A1 in the tent but never felt like it was a sketch place at all.

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My dad told me about the many weirdos he encountered while camping. Some of them are armed and fired off rounds on the campgrounds. One guy had all his teeth sharpened to look like canines. Then there was his Bigfoot encounter as well (seriously). I would be armed because there are bad people looking for isolated victims. So many go missing from our national parks.

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With the degeneration of the law/social contract regarding the homeless and not allowing municipalities to enforce vagrancy and camping prohibitions, we are experiencing more and more crime/social issues etc. This same broken window is spreading to all areas including legitimate camp sites as the OP has posted and we are seeing in the news recently.
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I used to collect cans and bottles. Was at a park around 6 in the morning it was light out and I was in one area of the park and I noticed a black guy was doing the same thing as me. So I figured that area might be his so I went about 300 yards away and was collecting cans out of the trash cans and noticed a treasure trove of Coke cans in a trash can about 10 feet away from me and it appears that black guy I left 300 yards away was about to get them and I got there first.

I was pissed, here I had been respectful of his area and he was encroaching on mine and I said to myself that guy is never going to get another can or bottle from this park as long as I'm still breathing. So I would go into the park at 1 in the morning case the entire place for cans and bottles and be out of there long before that guy would show up at 6 am. I'm sure it must have frustrated him when for those 2 years I did that his cash cow disappeared. But boy did he piss me off.

I can see someone going around at night collecting them before others have a chance to.
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When we used to go camping in really remote areas, we always brought the dogs. They added some relief and security.

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OP, how about some inexpensive solar motion spotlights around your camp area?
Most people lurking around at 2am donít like bright lights shining on them.
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Well unless the FBI crime stats are lying, I donít think this is liberals. I think the opposite is true. Liberals are trying to paint a picture of a ďgun violence crisisĒ. When the reality is, itís not. Weíre safe with hundreds of millions of guns in the country.

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It's stories like this and the OP's that are the reasons why camping in tents out in the middle of nowhere as anything other than a last resort has never appealed to me. I want some solid walls around me when I'm sleeping.
I started camping in tents in the middle of nowhere like Porcupine Flats in Yosemite and places like it that were less well known with my family as a kid. It made for some memorable times. It was great to learn how to make a fire, build a tent and sleep in it, how to improve on those basics. It was always a grand adventure and a way to experience the great outdoors in an up front and personal way that you will never get camping in a Lodge. We brought up our Son to enjoy the outdoors the same way. The strangest camp visitor I remember as a kid was a 7' tall bear, and while he tore up our neighbor's camp as they hadn't practiced bear country camp discipline, but he left us alone.

Camping as a younger adult on my own with a couple friends, I do recall some unexpected/unwelcome visitors coming into our camp and causing a ruckus. I do recall that I took comfort in having my GP100 close at hand, but out of sight. Thankfully, the situation never escalated.

Tent camping as a younger person was always fun and had a sense of adventure and it was an awesome way to connect with Nature. These days, I'm tired of packing the truck, erecting and taking down the campsite and dealing with the after effects of unpacking a truckload of gear and sleeping on the ground. I'm starting to think that the Wawona Inn at Yosemite is the perfect blend of roughing it (no TV) and being in the woods.

I know we raised our Son to camp and be security conscious, but after he returns from his 5th deployment in the desert in a few weeks, I'm thinking he may be done with sleeping in tents as well. My grandsons may never learn how to camp the way we did and the attendant dangers that come with sleeping in a forest with cloth walls around you and the precautions you need to take in those situations.

Being out in the wilderness means being aware of your surroundings and prepared being prepared.

I'm glad the OP turned out OK. There was certainly plenty of chances for it to have gone wrong.
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I have been thinking about getting one of these to give me a heads up when camping. I sleep hard, and I need an early warning.

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Iíve used cans with small rocks in them tied with fishing line or 550 cord as a trip-line in the past but recently my only camping has been with my Jeep and itís far from pavement, so I feel a bit safer especially in my rooftop tent sniper perch but I still have something for protection
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Am important point, bushes are concealment, boulders would be cover.
Very good point - I will clean up my vocabulary. Those were indeed just a concealment.
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That would work, it's just too elaborate for basic camping.
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Sidearm loaded first thing at camp and last thing put away when packing up camp. Wife and older kids are always given a sidearm for camp/hiking protection. Two or four legged predators around camp, my girls and boys are skilled with a handgun.
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In both you may have a firearm at your personal campsite. National park it can be loaded. State park - not readily accessible.

In terms of backpacking, I think you could keep it in your bag unloaded and locked and then wherever you set up for the night, take it out and load in a NP.
I assume if one has a CCW State parks are good to go?
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Didn't know the story on Mr. Beaudette--a quick lookup and Omg, horrible horrible sad story. Poor family.

Calguns folks, do *not* allow what happened to Mr. Beaudette, happen to you.


Right in my backyard Manny, and both the local Sheriff and State Park Rangers knew that someone had been shooting at campers on and off for more than a year and never warned anyone about it, not campers or local residents.

Beaudette's wife has sued, usually I'm against such things but in this case I hope she gets all she asks for as it is doubtful he would have taken his two young daughters camping there had he known.......
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I've got a few around the house. They're actually really small and self contained. Doable for car camping. The problem is that little critters will set them off too.

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I used to collect cans and bottles. Was at a park around 6 in the morning it was light out and I was in one area of the park and I noticed a black guy was doing the same thing as me. So I figured that area might be his so I went about 300 yards away and was collecting cans out of the trash cans and noticed a treasure trove of Coke cans in a trash can about 10 feet away from me and it appears that black guy I left 300 yards away was about to get them and I got there first.

I was pissed, here I had been respectful of his area and he was encroaching on mine and I said to myself that guy is never going to get another can or bottle from this park as long as I'm still breathing. So I would go into the park at 1 in the morning case the entire place for cans and bottles and be out of there long before that guy would show up at 6 am. I'm sure it must have frustrated him when for those 2 years I did that his cash cow disappeared. But boy did he piss me off.

I can see someone going around at night collecting them before others have a chance to.
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I've got a few around the house. They're actually really small and self contained. Doable for car camping. The problem is that little critters will set them off too.



If you think there's a nationwide conspiracy of police departments trying to skew the national crime rate, you're giving the gov a lot of credit.

I'll buy the FBI statistics over vague accusations of a nationwide conspiracy to lower the crime rate.
Youíre not familiar with LA screwing with the crime rates, are you?
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Good work OP!
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I heard an interview with this woman daughter yesterday (KFI) John and Ken show.

Fortunately the lady was found after escaping a near rape at a california campground.
https://fox40.com/2019/07/15/missing...d-found-alive/
A Huntington Beach woman who vanished four days ago while camping with her husband in Inyo County has been found alive, and her family says she got lost while trying to hide from a man who threatened to rape her.

Too bad she didn't have a california approved 380 in her purse or fanny pack! She would not have had to almost die running away from a possible rapist !
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Glad you're ok.

Do note that "Man Code" dictates that if you've got a stranger in your campground in the middle of the night, you GET UP and back your buddy up...NOW. You do not sit in your tent to "wait and see," you do not sit in your tent and wait to be called. A stranger in your campground in the middle of the night IS A PROBLEM.

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How do campsites work in regards to castle doctrine? If someone is in your house you're presumed to be under threat of death or serious bodily harm. Is the campsite defined the same way, or just the tent/camper?
Self defense is not directly dependent on additional laws such as castle doctrine, stand your ground or duty to retreat. Those laws address how the context of self defense is addressed in court and whether you can avoid both criminal and civil proceedings, not directly whether you will be guilty or liable.

If it's a good self defense, you're in the clear.
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Do note that "Man Code" dictates that if you've got a stranger in your campground in the middle of the night, you GET UP and back your buddy up...NOW. You do not sit in your tent to "wait and see," you do not sit in your tent and wait to be called. A stranger in your campground in the middle of the night IS A PROBLEM.
Heh, it wasn't like that - it happened all pretty much at once. By the time we woke up from the noise we were already called. It was just a few quick loud sentences .
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