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That mounting setup you have is not helping one bit. Every time you have a connection point you introduce an area for movement. Spend the money and get a proper canted AR scope mount. |
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Remove scope, rings, and mount. Throw in ocean.
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Use a real, dedicated AR mount. Buy a decent one, you will use it.
Test at 100. To check for parallax, line up the crosshairs, then shift your eye around. If the crosshairs stay put on target, you do not have a parallax problem. If the shift relative to POA, then you do have a parallax problem. |
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Here is one from aero precisions though there are many options from many companies: https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precisio...22QQQAGX02DDY6
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Get a one piece scope mount for AR. You have rings on a rail on a rail I use Weavers around 50 bucks return your scope and get a Vortex Diamondback HP or better yet Viper. Problem solved. At a minimum get a new mount. I have the Viper linked below with mildot reticle and like it a lot it is not a $1000 scope but is very serviceable.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/92...de-focus-matte $299 Vortex Optics Viper Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6.5-20x 44mm Side Focus Matte https://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...op-ar-15-matte https://www.midwayusa.com/product/24...al-rings-matte Last edited by stevebla; 10-24-2018 at 8:33 AM.. |
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Primary Arms has that mount on sale for $54.99 right now. All Aero stuff is marked down.
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I had the same YHM cantilevered riser on my NRA Highpower rifle. I agree that the "flex" is pretty obvious. However, my set-up did not have the issues you are experiencing, which leads me to question the scope.
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My advice. Remount the scope. That fixed my "broken" scope. More loctite advice. If you have an ARgold trigger and adjust the pull weight screw, put some loctite on the screw or you will be eventually be looking for little parts of your trigger, which will be inside your rifle, if you are lucky... |
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With a scope that's setup to be parallax free at 150 or 200yd use being used at 50yds and inconsistent eye position behind the scope.
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Most people even believe the parallax distance markings on their scope are actually accurate too! As an experiment, walk up to almost any shooter at a public range who you see shooting 6" groups at 50 or 100yds and engage them about their scope. Set the parallax correctly and tell them to shoot another group. 7/10 times, the groups get significantly better and they look at you like you are some magician. The other 3 times, it's the guy with his 12" extended bipod sitting upright at the bench and not even using a rear rest of any sort. That guy has even bigger issues than parallax...
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Different question
Do you have another rifle with a proper scope that you shoot well? I have 2 friends who are OK shots. They added red dots thinking this would make them shoot like Jerry Miculak They still can’t hit well with the red dot. I’m wondering if you are new to scopes and you have changed something about how you align the sights and press the trigger. If your cheek weld has changed from consistent with Irons to a chin weld with optics
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not a fan of that scope rail sir, get an AR cantilever like an American Def.
There are alot of value AR optic mounts at Primary ARms as well, would then later swap that hawk optic out, with something in the mid grade price range, hell even an Leupold VX would be a good option. https://www.primaryarms.com/MCategories+Scope-Mounts
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Aero Precision also makes several excellent light weight cantilever mounts which aren't terribly expensive.
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Thanks all, lots of good advice here.
As I mentioned previously I am doing fine with another similar econoscope (Mueller) on a 10/22. Although I am not used to optics I am slowly figuring it out. I am gonna mount the "proven" Mueller on the current mounting platform on the AR, take it to the range and see how that goes, and also bring along my PA Cantilever mount and swap that out as well as needed. Why not go right to the PA Cantilever one piece? Well, I only want to change one variable at a time. Plus the PA is is just a "bit" too high for my liking, although in theory its at almost exactly the same height as the irons were (.10" higher) so it should be workable. Also I think someone asked who built the upper. That would be me. Aero Precision stripped upper, faxon 18" 1:8 barrel rifle gas length, YHM econobrake, ALG rail, Nitrided BCG. My trigger is a nice Geissele B-G2S-E (the kind they sold only through Brownell's). |
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Update
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I swapped out scopes between my rifles and the issue is def the scope. With the Mueller formerly on the 10/22 mounted on th AR, the AR is doing much better. When I mounted the HAWKE on the 10/22, I expected the 10/22 accuracy to go to crap, but it did not, at least not as bad as it was on the AR. So that is a little odd. Regardless, I am just going to buy a new Mueller to replace the Hawke. While the Hawke ain't so bad on the 10/22, the Mueller is brighter and clearer. |
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