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Old 08-01-2017, 1:51 PM
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Default H.R.3458 - National Microstamping

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...m%22%5D%7D&r=1

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To require certain semiautomatic pistols manufactured, imported, or sold by Federal firearms licensees to be capable of microstamping ammunition, and the prohibit the removal, obliteration, or alteration of the microstamped code or microstamping capability of a firearm.
Just a little gift to everyone who dreams of one day moving out of CA to escape the nonsense.

These gun laws are cancer.
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Old 08-01-2017, 2:25 PM
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It won't get out of committee.

The R's aren't going to do anything to improve things, but they will be quite happy to bury this bill in committee and then jump up and down saying "See, see what we saved your from."
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It looks like a NRA pledge drive, not a real law.
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It won't get out of committee.

The R's aren't going to do anything to improve things, but they will be quite happy to bury this bill in committee and then jump up and down saying "See, see what we saved your from."
Ya this bill doesn't stand a chance, I mostly just wanted to point out how other states aren't completely immune from the idiocies thought up by our CA legislators. Our congressional majority probably won't last forever, after all.
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Just a little gift to everyone who dreams of one day moving out of CA to escape the nonsense.
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Ya this bill doesn't stand a chance, I mostly just wanted to point out how other states aren't completely immune from the idiocies thought up by our CA legislators. Our congressional majority probably won't last forever, after all.
Ya, so which is worse: living in a free state where maybe, possibly, perhaps, perchance, someday there might be a national microstamping law, or...

living in California, which already HAS had a microstamping law in effect since 2010?

Which is worse, being alive and knowing you might go to hell someday, or...

being in hell?

And if the people in hell could talk to the living, would "pointing out" to the living "Just you wait, you might be here too someday" make being in hell any better for those who are there?

Unlike hell, people in California have the option of leaving.
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It looks like a NRA pledge drive, not a real law.
5 Days and already 12 co-sponsors. All with [D] affiliation.

Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
Rep. Brady, Robert A. [D-PA-1]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Connolly, Gerald E. [D-VA-11]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Gutierrez, Luis V. [D-IL-4]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Larson, John B. [D-CT-1]* 07/27/2017
Rep. McEachin, A. Donald [D-VA-4]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC-At Large]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Raskin, Jamie [D-MD-8]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Schakowsky, Janice D. [D-IL-9]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Serrano, Jose E. [D-NY-15]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Suozzi, Thomas R. [D-NY-3]* 07/27/2017
Rep. Vargas, Juan [D-CA-51]*

Looks real to me. But gonna be DOA when it hits the wall of R's in congress.
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I like this from the press release:

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In October of 2007, California became the first state in the country to pass microstamping legislation. Implemented in the beginning of 2010, the California law required all semi-automatic handguns bought within the state have the ability to be microstamped [sic] on cartridges fired by the weapon.

https://anthonybrown.house.gov/media...dentify-bullet
Did you guys know that since 2010 every semi-automatic handgun bought in California has had microstamping? It shows just how misinformed pro-gun control legislators are. It's almost a requirement and has become a tradition.
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I like this from the press release:



Did you guys know that since 2010 every semi-automatic handgun bought in California has had microstamping? It shows just how misinformed pro-gun control legislators are. It's almost a requirement and has become a tradition.
I almost want to see this go to committee. It will be some great cspan watching. "Will the gentleman from MaryDumb****Land please produce one working specimen?"
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Maybe someone should just drop him a liine:

Dear Assemblyman ****forBrains:
California has a microstamping law but not a single microstamping pistol has been sold because no such pistol exists. No manufacturer, large or small, produces such a pistol. All of the pistols currently for sale in California were certified for sale before the microstamping law was put into effect.
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Stupid politicians this technology does not even exist, does it?
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Stupid politicians this technology does not even exist, does it?
One guy made one gun one time that microstamps a casing in only one place. Nobody has been able to make one that stamps it in two places which is the CA requirement.

Unfortunately, they do know and don't care that the technology doesn't/can't exist, and if it did exist they'd just invent some new impossible requirement to replace it, like casings have to have a GPS transponder that activates when the gun fires it or something.

The point of microstamping was never to help solve crimes, it is purely only designed to ban guns.
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:26 AM
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When it comes out of committee the bill will probably require retroactive implementation of microstamping for any firearm manufactured after 1900. Why not really go for it.
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