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Old 10-19-2019, 7:36 AM
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Not sure if this is the right place for this question.

With all of the extra BS here in CA I'm thinking about getting the Real ID so that I don't have to take my Passport to Walmart to buy ammo.

The question is that I notice on the their website there is a fee for a renewal and one for a duplicate. The fee for the duplicate is less that the renewal and based on this website https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...duplicateID_DL it looks like you can "upgrade" to the Real ID.

Now I haven't lost my current ID. Can I use the "duplicate" form for my new Real ID?
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I got a duplicate, just have to bring all your paperwork for the real id version.
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Old 10-19-2019, 7:42 AM
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I got a "real" I'd then come to find out it's no good... I guess the early real IDs were not issued correctly. So now I will go through the Commifornia BS and get another one until we find out that one is ****ed too...
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I got a "real" I'd then come to find out it's no good... I guess the early real IDs were not issued correctly. So now I will go through the Commifornia BS and get another one until we find out that one is ****ed too...
From the research I did there should be a form to fill out and send back to them with the extra proof of residency.

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I got a duplicate, just have to bring all your paperwork for the real id version.
Thanks, that's what I was hoping for.

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The CA DMV...what a disaster.

The fix for early Real IDs that were defective as issued, was to mail recipients a letter, and replying to the letter supposedly established said person resided at the address. I suspect the Feds may ultimately challenge this, but so far they seem relatively silent on the fix.
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I just did this [license renewal] to Real ID yesterday. The DMV seems to have straightened it all out, as my process took 35 minutes. I have my temporary stamped "Real ID" till my actual license comes in. We shall see. Fingers crossed!
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I got a "real" I'd then come to find out it's no good... I guess the early real IDs were not issued correctly. So now I will go through the Commifornia BS and get another one until we find out that one is ****ed too...
Dont panic. DMV should send you a letter verifying your residency. Just sign and send it back. Then you are good and your Real ID will renew automatically.

I got one of the early "non compliant" Real IDs in June 2018. DMV sent me a letter about a month ago. All the letter said was to confirm the address they had on file, sign and send it back.
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My illegal alien license works as good as the old one. No one looks at it. No one seems to care about any differences.

I always carry my passport but have only needed it once at Turners buying a gun. Ammo, no issues.
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My illegal alien license works as good as the old one. No one looks at it. No one seems to care about any differences.

I always carry my passport but have only needed it once at Turners buying a gun. Ammo, no issues.
+1. And it was much easier to get my non-RealID license - by Internet. If you have a passport, I don't think there is a compelling reason to go through the hassle (I was looking at a 3 month delay to get a RealID appointment) for the RealID DL.
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^^ And if you lose your passport you don't fly till replaced.
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I'm not going to make an appointment. I'm just going to walk in and wait. The office I plan on going to has an average wait time of 15 minutes for no appointment.

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^^ And if you lose your passport you don't fly till replaced.
If you lose your D/L, you don't drive until it is replaced.
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True, but I doubt that a copy of either the RealID D/L or passport would get you past the TSA checkpoint. There is some sort of light-based verification step that the D/L or passport is subjected to, and a photocopy wouldn't pass the light test.

Not sure of how the CHP would respond to a photocopy of my D/L, either.

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I'm guessing that there is a good number of people driving without a license everyday. No Real ID or passport; you AIN'T flying as of, I believe, 10/2020.
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I'm guessing that there is a good number of people driving without a license everyday. No Real ID or passport; you AIN'T flying as of, I believe, 10/2020.
Especially is you watch Live PD. I would say 80% of the stops don’t have a DL or it is suspended.
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Some get duplicates made. That's needed traveling overseas in case some oppressive government confiscates your ticket out of town. I learned to do this when a cruise ship held my passport. I took my spare into town as a back up.
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Not sure if this is the right place for this question.

With all of the extra BS here in CA I'm thinking about getting the Real ID so that I don't have to take my Passport to Walmart to buy ammo.

The question is that I notice on the their website there is a fee for a renewal and one for a duplicate. The fee for the duplicate is less that the renewal and based on this website https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...duplicateID_DL it looks like you can "upgrade" to the Real ID.

Now I haven't lost my current ID. Can I use the "duplicate" form for my new Real ID?
You also have the option to apply for a Real ID CA Identification card. You can't have both a Real ID DL & ID card......but, if your DL is the non Real ID version, then you can
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You also have the option to apply for a Real ID CA Identification card. You can't have both a Real ID DL & ID card......but, if your DL is the non Real ID version, then you can
I didn't even think about that. Even though I'm no longer using it I'd like to keep my license the way it is, which is a commercial class A. A duplicate license will cost me $34.

A regular real id will only be $31. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

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Right now the wait time for non-appointment is 8 minutes.

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Duplicate is good until your current expiration date. Renewal adds time.
My license is less than 2 years old. If I pay for the renewal it would be like paying $46 for these last 2 years.

If I get a CA Real ID ID for $31. It would be like paying $31 for the next 3 years.

$46 divided by 2 is $23. $31 divided by 3 years is only $10.33. much cheaper to get the Real ID ID.



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Duplicates of d/l and passport useless. JimiJah. Cannot use for travel/ purchases etc.
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I'm just going to make an appointment and get the real thing until they **** it up again and the "real" I'd is not real anymore...
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I got a "real" I'd then come to find out it's no good... I guess the early real IDs were not issued correctly. So now I will go through the Commifornia BS and get another one until we find out that one is ****ed too...
I think i may be in the same boat.
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^^^ <Lots of people got a letter from dmv to sign and return that solved that are you guys brig bunnies and hiding.(LOL) Do not have to go back to dmv.
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If you lose your D/L, you don't drive until it is replaced.
I doubt it. If you lost your DL & you're pulled over, can't the officer run your info or something & find out that you're licensed?
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Duplicates of d/l and passport useless. JimiJah. Cannot use for travel/ purchases etc.
Someone needs to inform all those counties and places I used them in?
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Okay, I have another question.

Doing the math it looks like getting an ID is going to be cheaper than getting a duplicate CDL.

The question is, since I've never bought anything with the ID will I still be able to get ammo before buying a new to me firearm?

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Okay, I have another question.

Doing the math it looks like getting an ID is going to be cheaper than getting a duplicate CDL.

The question is, since I've never bought anything with the ID will I still be able to get ammo before buying a new to me firearm?

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As long as the info on the ID (name, address, etc.) matches the info from your DL that you used for a firearm purchase, it will match in the system for an ammo purchase.
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Why even bother wasting your time and money when you already have a passport. Seems illogical to me.
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Why even bother wasting your time and money when you already have a passport. Seems illogical to me.
Because I would rather not have to take my Passport to Walmart for ammo. I'm just funny that way.

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As long as the info on the ID (name, address, etc.) matches the info from your DL that you used for a firearm purchase, it will match in the system for an ammo purchase.
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I just did this [license renewal] to Real ID yesterday. The DMV seems to have straightened it all out, as my process took 35 minutes. I have my temporary stamped "Real ID" till my actual license comes in. We shall see. Fingers crossed!
What did you need to bring to the DMW other than the social security card? I'm thinking about bringing my Passport Card in addition to the SS card.
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https://realid.dmv.ca.gov/your-real-id-checklist/

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Not much different than taking your FSC and 2nd proof to the LGS when buying a gun.
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Not much different than taking your FSC and 2nd proof to the LGS when buying a gun.
I don't take either of those with me when I buy a gun What I do take is the same size as my CDL and fits in the same spot as it. A Passport doesn't and I don't carry it with me every day.

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