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Old 10-21-2019, 8:01 AM
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Old 10-21-2019, 8:07 AM
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Yeah,government hates competition.
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Old 10-21-2019, 8:10 AM
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Old 10-21-2019, 8:11 AM
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Knowingly selling to gangs should be life in prison.
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Old 10-21-2019, 8:36 AM
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Knowingly selling to gangs should be life in prison.
Should be, but ole Leland got what, 5 years?
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No wall for me.

Clear your cookies. Or look for one called sacbee.com and delete it.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:15 AM
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Use incognito mode on your browser.
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As opposed to a "big legal gun bust?"
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Should be, but ole Leland got what, 5 years?
Right, the "logical" course of action is to let this guy go and punish the rest of us.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And make life more difficult for law-abiding citizens. Thanks a lot, jerk.
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"During an undercover buy in Truckee in October 2018, “Osterhout relayed to the (undercover buyer) that ‘I don’t have a problem selling to people from California because I lived in California and know how f----- up it is,’” court documents say."
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Old 10-21-2019, 1:20 PM
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Guys like this have been around since the cadets had gun shows at El Camino High school in Sacramento in the 1970's. It sounds like they have known of him for a while and now they need a big bang news story to rile the public up so they bust him as a favor to the anti gun faction. Notice who is pictured at the top. Our favorite statistical prostitute. They have known about this guy for a while and yet so few examples to cite on such a big bust. something is fishy about this story. I am sure the good doctor will soon declare all of us gun owners as mentally unfit because we like guns and refuse to give them up or the 2nd amendment.

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i like the bit about him not selling to "oakland people" i cant tell if that is a bad thing or a good thing?
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Old 10-21-2019, 1:40 PM
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He could face up to five years in prison and $250,000 in fines.

Wow, big time punishment
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i like the bit about him not selling to "oakland people" i cant tell if that is a bad thing or a good thing?
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Lock him up and throw away the keys!
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Yeah, no pay wall for me.
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Old 10-21-2019, 3:39 PM
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Gotta admit though, he covered the spectrum of desired goods from a Calguns perspective!
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Old 10-21-2019, 4:25 PM
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Gotta admit though, he covered the spectrum of desired goods from a Calguns perspective!
You know there are some members here that are puckered up at this news...
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Old 10-21-2019, 4:29 PM
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Most of you guys seem to have a problem with the Second Amendment.
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Old 10-21-2019, 6:03 PM
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Most of you guys seem to have a problem with the Second Amendment.
This isn't a 2A issue, this is criminal activity. Straw purchases and sales to unauthorized persons are crimes.

If he was following the law, no biggie. This is different.
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A Nevada man has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Sacramento on charges that he sold dozens of firearms in California, including weapons that were later seized by law enforcement as far away as Chiapas, Mexico.
Damn, I didn't know Eric Holder was from Nevada.
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Not 2 A issue..Violated federal, state and local laws. Supplied firearms to criminals not angels. Seanbo in some dream world. All parties are felons, brig bunnies.
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Yeah,government hates competition.
What? You think what this guy did was ok and that the Gov. should not have investigated and arrested him? He was knowingly selling guns to criminals who will use them to kill and harm other people. many of them innocent citizens! Arsecaverns like this guy are what give the anti's the ammunition to pass more gun control laws and imperil our rights.

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Should be, but ole Leland got what, 5 years?
BUT... Ole Leland never actually delivered any guns into the hands of criminals.. he just planned and conspired to...
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Old 10-21-2019, 6:42 PM
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Diference between large and big illegal gun bust is interesting. The fast and furious FAIL operation could be defined as big and illegal as well.

Not recalling Eric Holder or Obama doing any time for that debacle.
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"During an undercover buy in Truckee in October 2018, “Osterhout relayed to the (undercover buyer) that ‘I don’t have a problem selling to people from California because I lived in California and know how f----- up it is,’” court documents say."
Best part of the story, IMO.
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Old 10-21-2019, 7:21 PM
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shoot i never knew we had that much activity going on at the rest stops along I-80. I 'll have to stop more often and "stretch" my legs. (LOL) did they find the governor's personal number on him for fast legal service? How many guns did these idiots let this guy sell and how many people got killed before they decided they had enough news cameras to make the bust? Good bust but crappy politics letting this guy run free for that long.
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Presuming this guy didn't sell to gang members or people he knew would commit violence, what justified laws did this guy break?
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Presuming this guy didn't sell to gang members or people he knew would commit violence, what justified laws did this guy break?
Exactly ^^^

A lot of the guys on this thread don't believe in "shall not be infringed."
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Most of you guys seem to have a problem with the Second Amendment.
This thread has a quite a few replies that go full r......, but this one really takes the cake. Having a problem with sales to gangs and straw purchases = being against the 2A? LOL!

By supporting/defending people like that criminal, YOU are doing the 2A a disservice and hurting our cause.
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No where in the article did it say he knowingly sold Firearms to "gangs" or prohibited people. The Second Amendment does not put any restrictions on purchasing firearms. Any restriction on the 2nd Amendment is unconstitutional. If someone can't be trusted to have a firearm in society that person should not be allowed to be in society.
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Unless you mean by gangs he sold them to undercover officers?
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Clear your cookies. Or look for one called sacbee.com and delete it.
I did; but still paper's subscribe widow still freezes the page.

The positive thing about the freeze is that I do not have to be assaulted by the "note gun expert" garen winterY&^$##C. He is such an A*$#e
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I have a question. How many times did a gun he sold change hands before a crime was committed with it? Does that mean if you ever sell a gun responsibility for all future acts could be laid at your doorstep. I am sure this is what that a--hat at Davis is angling for and your tax dollars are paying for. Personally I don't think that man needs any makeup to go out on trick or treat and scare poor children to death.
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