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Old 11-29-2011, 11:28 AM
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Which UCMJ article covers sleeping on duty while in a wartime status>?

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Old 11-29-2011, 11:31 AM
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Article 92 - Dereliction of Duty

"A service member who is derelict has willfully refused to perform his duties (or follow a given order) or has incapacitated himself in such a way that he cannot perform his duties. "

Which includes sleeping.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:33 AM
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You also have Article 113 which covers "Misbehavior of sentinel," which includes sleeping, but the only time I've seen an NJP charge over sleeping on watch, the LN used Article 92.
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Article 92 - Dereliction of Duty

"A service member who is derelict has willfully refused to perform his duties (or follow a given order) or has incapacitated himself in such a way that he cannot perform his duties. "

Which includes sleeping.
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You also have Article 113 which covers "Misbehavior of sentinel," which includes sleeping, but the only time I've seen an NJP charge over sleeping on watch, the LN used Article 92.
Thank you very much. You just made my night easier!
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Old 11-29-2011, 5:38 PM
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I was in JAG for 3 years. fun times lol
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Old 11-29-2011, 5:41 PM
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Thank you very much. You just made my night easier!
Looks like someone is getting themselves some counseling...
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Old 11-29-2011, 5:43 PM
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You also have Article 113 which covers "Misbehavior of sentinel," which includes sleeping, but the only time I've seen an NJP charge over sleeping on watch, the LN used Article 92.
^^ This

Also a violation of the first general order for sentries

"to walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing"
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Old 11-29-2011, 5:46 PM
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^^ This

Also a violation of the first general order for sentries

"to walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing"
Ya... that works really well after 72 hours straight.

You see and hear a LOT of things that are not taking place within sight or hearing
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Don't for get article 134 the "general article" seems that one was plied on too in my day.
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yep loved article 134, if I can't fit it into anything I'll just "create" one.
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haha My father got busted shortly before he left the service for sleeping while on top watch with a folding chair and a pillow Amazingly he got to keep his Dolphins.
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We called them wall to wall counselings.
This, paperwork doesn't get the point a cross, and is gay Its like a mom politely asking a kid to stop throwing a fit in toys r us or telling your dog its a bad boy for ****ting on the floor. Guess the military just keeps getting softer.

Had a guy ND a 240b when clearing it when we rtb to speicher, by the end of the evening he was doing flutter kicks with an IV in his arm. He never had a ND again, also ended up getting his E5 shortly after we returned from our 15 month deployment.

I made my share of mistakes as a young soldier, and paid for them in sweat, not ink.

Where's the E4 mafia when you need it?
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Don't for get article 134 the "general article" seems that one was plied on too in my day.
Art 134 is not a catch all like they say it has specific articles within it.
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I remember I fell asleep on firewatch back at MCRD San Diego while I was mopping the head, boy did I get it from the DI the next morning...
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Art 134 is not a catch all like they say it has specific articles within it.
Really? How many article 15/Captain Mast have you typed up?

Me? Only about a thousand or so.

You're half right, it does have specific articles and it also can be "tailored to the situation."
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I remember being on CQ. The runner and I slept in shifts.
The OD thought he had me but he couldn't prove it.
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Paperwork was used to build history when dealing the occasional useless body that was just not going to shape up and was unable to cope with military life.

Every time they get on the wrong side of a rule you document it. Then when they have a oops that they might get away with you bury them...only had to do it a couple of times in twenty years but it worked.
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