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Old 05-17-2019, 12:23 PM
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Is there any way to make a Inland M2 carbine legal? Can you convert it to semi auto and sell it it, or does that M2 stamp make it illegal forever?

I heard that back in 1968, they were grandfathered in, but not sure if that is true. From what I heard you had to register them and keep the paperwork

Grandfather of a friend has it in another state thinks he has one, but I have not seen it.
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You cant make a machine gun not a machine gun to my knowledge.
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Once a MG always a MG, You would have to do what they do with other parts kits, cut the receiver up and use a new receiver to rebuild.
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You cant make a machine gun not a machine gun to my knowledge.
I know you can convert it with M1 parts....it is supposed to be simple, but you can’t get rid of that M2 stamp....,

I just want to get the old guy some money for it if it’s possible. Otherwise it’s getting destroyed cause it’s to much of a liability for the guy.
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Once a MG always a MG, You would have to do what they do with other parts kits, cut the receiver up and use a new receiver to rebuild.
That’s what I am suggesting at this point, but I thought I would pass it through you guys.....

Where would you get a new receiver?
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That’s what I am suggesting at this point, but I thought I would pass it through you guys.....

Where would you get a new receiver?
Maybe James River Armory. They used to refurbish a lot of carbines
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:54 PM
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These guys might have some

http://www.riverbankarmory.com/parts1.html
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The ATF is good if someone brought home a trophy with approval

If it is a class 3, strip the gun to the receiver and contact the atf
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It is a federal felony and many state crimes. It’s never worth your rights and freedom

Plus if it is legal as a war trophy, it is worth a lot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fV6M8IAKg

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I did not find an M2 for sale

Here is an M16

https://www.machineguncentral.com/Vi...e-05e8ce1d509f
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$7,000-11,000

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/803408732
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That’s what I am suggesting at this point, but I thought I would pass it through you guys.....

Where would you get a new receiver?
Fulton armory has nice forged new ones.

CMP forum has 'em selling sometimes

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For God's sake noooooooo!
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Is there any way to make a Inland M2 carbine legal? Can you convert it to semi auto and sell it it, or does that M2 stamp make it illegal forever?

I heard that back in 1968, they were grandfathered in, but not sure if that is true. From what I heard you had to register them and keep the paperwork

Grandfather of a friend has it in another state thinks he has one, but I have not seen it.
I would first ensure it really is an M2 Carbine. The last one I was asked about (from a cop friend in LA who supposedly knew something about guns) turned out to be an early 60's made Universal Carbine. Despite all the questions meant to ID it as an M2 being answered "yes, that's what it looks like" when the photos showed up …… plain old Universal.
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well, it will be clearly stamped either M1 or M2 on the receiver ring
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http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/rockola-m1...receivers.aspx new production Rockola $195
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Thank you for all the help. There is no paperwork at all with this gun, so I don’t think there are any loopholes to keep it. I am thinking that getting a new receiver for it it’s probably the best thing, Although the receivers are pretty darn expensive. A legit inland receiver at Riverbank is 650. I will check the other places that were mentioned out. I will check the other places that were mentioned out

I will pass on your advice, and let him decide. The penalties for keeping it are just too high to keep it as it is.
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Riverbank is a scammer, he sells fake parts all over Ebay under different names. keep an eye on the CMP forum classified ads. lots of true enthusiasts sell there and prices are reasonable if and when one pops up. there's a complete inland rifle for $800 right now.
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That guy should consult a lawyer ASAP.
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personally, as much as it would hurt my brain to do it, I'd strip the receiver and torch cut it into 3 pieces. I would then clean up and mount the 3 pieces on a plaque and hang it on the wall. Then I'd wait until a deal came along on an M1 receiver and put it all back together minus the select fire components. I believe even some of the select fire components are class 3, I would check that out as well.

Here's the Fulton receiver w/o rear sight

https://www.fulton-armory.com/m1-car...on-armory.aspx

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Watch that video that hermosabeach posted by Ian of Forgotten Weapons. It is a very good video that addresses your friends friends issue. Good luck.


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I know you can convert it with M1 parts....it is supposed to be simple, but you can’t get rid of that M2 stamp....,

I just want to get the old guy some money for it if it’s possible. Otherwise it’s getting destroyed cause it’s to much of a liability for the guy.
That would be stupid, because if it's a registered MG it's worth thousands of dollars.
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Is there any way to make a Inland M2 carbine legal? Can you convert it to semi auto and sell it it, or does that M2 stamp make it illegal forever?

I heard that back in 1968, they were grandfathered in, but not sure if that is true. From what I heard you had to register them and keep the paperwork

Grandfather of a friend has it in another state thinks he has one, but I have not seen it.
They had an amnesty for unregistered machine guns back in 1968. You had to fill out a form at that time and send it in to the government to legally keep them. Ian, the guy on the "Forgotten Weapons" YouTube channel discusses it in one of his videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoSbLw_7hA

If this was not done at that time by the owner of the M2 and it was never NFA registered before that, then the owner missed his chance to make it legal.
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They had an amnesty for unregistered machine guns back in 1968. You had to fill out a form at that time and send it in to the government to legally keep them. Ian, the guy on the "Forgotten Weapons" YouTube channel discusses it in one of his videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoSbLw_7hA

If this was not done at that time by the owner of the M2 and it was never NFA registered before that, then the owner missed his chance to make it legal.
UK had an "amnesty" but theirs required unregistered weapons be turned in. check out the MP40 at :12

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