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Fresno County CCW Policy, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here
Sheriff Mims, in this NRA video (she begins at 2 min 14 sec in), says requiring a "Good Cause" is discriminatory and unconstitutional and is a form of gun control. UPDATE: 2014 Sept 22: the Fresno Police Dept now accepts mere "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause acc to the info in this post: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3#post14929693 This from the Fresno PD's website (http://www.fresno.gov/Government/Dep...s/ApplyCCW.htm) (2015 Sept 06): GOOD CAUSE DETERMINATION Good Cause is defined as any citizen concerned for the safety of themselves, their family and friends or their employees. An investigation will be conducted into the applicant’s statement of good cause. The determination of good cause should consider the totality of circumstances in each individual case.
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We will be giving specific instructions going forward. If it doesn't come from me, Gene, Brett or Gray, it probably isn't time to move yet.
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Is there anything of substance that is proposed to be addressed by this initiative in Fresno county? I'm willing to sponsor but I don't see any way that the scope of this initiative can improve Maggie's process in a donation-effective way. Soliciting input.
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Fresno's policy is illegal in a number of ways. We understand that the Sheriff also has quite a backlog and sets appointments for months out - effectively denying you a right to bear arms for self-defense and your Due Process of Law. More, I do not believe (based on the info I have) that Fresno is "shall issue", just "very liberal issue".
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I apologize for being vague. I was actually asking for detailed input as to the specific plan to reform Fresno county's CCW process.
I am already completely aware of the time frame issue, the fee issue, etc, etc. From what we understand, these are not cost/resource effective violations to correct in the grand scheme of CCW, let alone bearing arms and due process. Hence my question. Our research indicates that you are correct that Fresno county is not "shall issue" but it is vSI and that self defense = good cause. My query is how our situation can be substantially improved upon within the apparent limited parameters of the initiative. |
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Who is "our", and what "limited parameters" are you referring to? Those in our press release, or are you on our conference calls?
I think it's time you speak plainly.
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"Our" includes myself and a number of other associates of mine. Sorry, I could have just said "my", didn't know it would come under such scrutiny.
"Limited ..." = not constitutional carry. I thought my questions re: specific plan(s) was plainly spoken. What specific plans are there for Fresno county CCW reform? |
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When will they get to Fresno? As soon as the road map for coordinating the initiative for all 58 counties says it's go time. All of that to say, yes they have a very specific plan for Fresno(where there's quite a bit of tidying up to do) and it'll happen when they get the desired results from whatever counties/lawsuits are lined up before Fresno. After Fresno, they'll move on to whatever counties remain. Stay tuned to this thread, when they're ready to move here in Fresno, they'll definitely make some loud announcements. |
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As we speak i'm told its about a 6 month total time period from start to finish for your ccw.
but know the right people and its 1 month? big county small group. If you want to test the time frame i'll start my app. next monday and report on progress.
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If you want a CCW, then get your appointment set ASAP and go apply. If you want to help reform Fresno's unlawful policy, then standby.
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I guess that's what happens when you have an under-budgeted department overwhelmed by requests for CCW's. Hell I know people who have moved here just to get the CCW.
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If you live in the fresno city limits you can obtain you ccw through the fresno pd. I had my first appt 2 in days rather than 6 months through the sherrifs dept. Call Ed Torres in the fresno pd ccw dept @ 559-276-6056.
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I'm not aware that FPD is issuing for self-defense. If they are, then it's a viable alternative. However, we strongly urge people to avoid PD's that do not issue for self-defense and apply directly to their sheriff.
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Either way will be a wait....
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Hey everyone! Im new as you can tell and I am currently overseas and on the way back from deployment. I intend on purchasesing a hand gun and would like to get a ccw. So any help with any of my process would be much appreciated. Even direction to the correct thread in the forum is welcome. Thanks.
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Going to pick up my handgun in 10 days! After that I'll be waiting for the green light!
Thanks again Calguns!
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You don't need to write a groveling story, especially not for mims. Apply for lawfully concealing a firearm for defense of yourself and your family...and have fun with the LOOONG wait to get an interview, I'm getting reports of peoples' interviews in November/December that have applied recently. City PD has a substantially shorter time-frame if you're in the City Limits.
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It sounds to me like we may be in danger of destroying the good in pursuit of the perfect here. We work to elect a pro-gun sherif, we win, she starts issuing permits to ordinary folks with self defense as good cause, word gets around, the department is covered up with apps, and now we complain about processing time? Fresno as all Ca counties has a huge budget problem. As I write someone is deciding where to put FCSD resources. We are turning non-violent felons lose because the department does not have the money to provide space or supervision. So, do you take staff from the jail to process CCWs, do they pull detectives off murder cases to do background checks and interviews? I'll bet SF and LA counties have no backlog. We get one or two sheriffs that are trying to do the right thing and we attack them? In the best of possible worlds no CCW would be needed. Open or concealed carry would be unrestricted. Maybe some day CalGuns will be able to bring that world into existence. I doubt it will be in my lifetime. In the mean time we need to understand who our friends are and if we can't pat them on the back, at least leave them the hell alone. No Ca county is "shall issue" and they can't be under present law. But our sherif is doing the best she can to make Fresno as close as possible to that ideal. That said; I have volunteered to do what I can to help, in the hope that CGF is way ahead of me and knows what it is doing. But I am going to need good reason to keep my heart in it.
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Mims is great on her GC for issuance, it's the rest of the process in place that has some cleaning up, I'll just say they're adding extra steps for themselves that do nothing but needlessly slow the process down, which draws more resources. One thing that is disconcerting about SO is that appointments have been all over the board, people are getting wait times of 10 months, some 2 months, some of the late appointments are calling in and getting sooner appointments. The District process you volunteered for is specifically set up to assist in a proactive, friendly approach instead of taking adverse action, because they have proven to be friendly. |
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2. Fresno's budget problems are not my problem. Their summary denial of rights to people waiting to [lawfully] exercise the right of self-defense [in the only manner available] is. 3. You don't understand mandates and the duties of the office of the Sheriff. 4. I'm not attacking friends. I'm attacking policies. It's unfortunate if they decide to stand with their [unconstitutional and unlawful] policies over the interests and rights of their residents. 5. I read your post as "please don't rock the boat, some of us like our positioning!" Quote:
2. Looks like you didn't have to endure the delays that current applicants are. Have you considered what your opinion would be if you had no permit and were staring down a ~year wait to even apply? -Brandon
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I'm wondering, would it be lawful for the sheriff to declare "constitutional carry" in the county was allowed until they can catch up with their backlog? He'd/she'd have to get the cooperation of the city chiefs of police I'm sure.
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