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They did not in the link make a blanket statement that they support red-flag laws, in fact they specifically stated that any such laws required due process which is the same position that you claimed to have. The simple fact is that you can't point to one specific red-flag law that the NRA supports because so far, all the proposed laws do not have the due process protections that the NRA wants. I have given you several opportunities to point out one single red-flag law that the NRA supports and prove me wrong. Your response has been to lie, deceive and pretend that you are doing the opposite.
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups Last edited by TRICKSTER; 05-26-2019 at 8:09 PM.. |
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Any idiot can file a lawsuit, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are accomplishing anything, in fact if they don't know what they are doing, they can do more harm than good.
How many cases have they won?
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Look below the surface. Read their financials. Don't be a chump.
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Go NRA !!!
Send money till it hurts. We are up against a tsunami of anti-2A monies attempting to deny citizens the right to bear arms. Banging on the NRA belittles the legal representation that they have provided to ensure your rights. I have heard an organized drumbeat denigrating the NRA for 50 years. The drumbeat always gets louder during election cycles. Where would Ca. Gun owners be without the NRA ? Safety... they are the gold standard in training, safety and firearm education. Wise up Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Halbrook Being in awe of this great man led me to approach him with the recent development where a state ( Montana) would challenge NFA laws within its borders. He politely asked me where this case would be heard? I said federal court and he said this case will set a bad precedent when the fed court rules against it. Like you said any idiot can file a suit and sometimes "they can do more harm than good" Good point! |
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And I never could understand people complaining about the NRA wasting money on incentives gifts, which give them free advertising from those who use them, pointing out that they purchase those incentive gifts where they will cost the NRA the least amount of money.
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups Last edited by TRICKSTER; 05-27-2019 at 5:22 PM.. |
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If change is required after the audit. Do the change to keep the Org alive and strong. That aside, The NRA is still the oldest civil rights org and the best when it comes to 2A.
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If your only response is just a Vulgar comment, that's a Good Indication you have no valid response and have tactically admitted you've lost the Debate. Noble |
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So now the NRA is the KKK?
Just saw this enlightened comment over on Reddit (link)
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Yeah, sfarchitect’s leftist proclamations usually produces the opposite of his intended results. He perpetually gets hit with the Law of Unintended Consequences, but never learns anything from the experience. Noble |
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Its called Psychological Projection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Quote:
Don't forget, it was the Democrat Party that created the KKK. The NRA was founded by Union Officers who fought against slavery, and it was the Republican Party that Freed the slaves. The NRA fights for the 2nd Amendment Rights for Everyone, including minorities. The Democrats want to take that Right Away, especially from minorities (like for example, Chicago). The Real Racists are the Democrat Party. Noble |
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"The NRA's view of the police tends to be that they are the good guys who uphold those laws.
Literally, the second amendment is supposed to help us defend ourselves against a tyrannical government - aka the police. The NRA is nothing more than a slightly more socially acceptable skin for the KKK." I believe the NRA thinks police will fight along side of those who would attempt tyranny in the USA . We see lots of examples when Sherrifs and police condemn state legislators and publicly refuse to enforce tyrannical laws. Noble thanx for the link on Pyscological Projection it does fit well . |
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Thank you!
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Of course, what I get back is something like "Oh yeah, well that was like 200 years ago and the Democrats no longer believe in slavery but the Republicans want to keep minorities down" I love the cartoon - I'm sure I'll be using that somewhere! |
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Okay....
So I read the entire thread.... and whats really funny...… Some people point out 'the NRA claims to be solvent and safe'.... but wants more money. Of course they ALWAYS want more money- doesn't matter what day of the week.... you gotta tell the person on the phone... please stop calling me asking for money... Yeah... we (NRA members) know that... But that's not the funny part. The funny part, is people here 'think' Pena is on hold waiting for NY. Everyone knows Pena isn't going anywhere, anytime.... (if it actually is on hold because NY... well... that decision isn't likely to come out until next spring.....) Talk about people wanting money.... here's what showed up in my email the other day EVEN WITH THE CASE ON HOLD.... "We've just been told that there's less than four days left until an important deadline in the case against the Roster. As you know, our friends at CGF have been litigating this case, and have been rushing to raise money to prepare for a possible green light from SCOTUS. DESTROY THE ROSTER - WIN A GLOCK 19! However, they only have mere days to meet a critical fundraising goal. And they need our help! That's why we're asking every able-bodied patriot in the Grassroots Army to chip in a donation to CGF's Roster challenge - ASAP." If its on hold.... why do you need money to sit on your hands and wait? And people talking smack about NRA trying to raise money at any opportunity..... That's funny stuff..... And... what "IMPORTANT (evasive/elusive) DEADLINE? It's on hold... aint no deadlines...….. CGF and FPC email..... Last edited by yacko; 05-29-2019 at 2:30 PM.. |
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Don't send money. Except the Anti-2A Zealots haven't gone away. The War against the 2nd Amendment hasn't stopped. The Democrats are still trying to Kill the 2nd Amendment. And they have Endless Piles of Cash to use against us, supplied by Bloomberg and his Billionaire Buddy's like Soros, who just recently transferred $18 BILLION to his Open Society Foundations to fund things like Gun Control and getting Democrats elected. So Yes, all Pro 2A Organizations need donations to fight back against this Tidal Wave of Anti-2A funding, like Bloomberg, who has given about $110 Million Targeted at the NRA and Anti-2A issues. All sides use Hyperbole to try and generate support. This is nothing new or unusual, and is typical behavior when trying to get people to donate. The problem is when Hyperbole starts to match Reality. The NRA is under a serious threat from Democrat Gov Cuomo, who is attempting to cripple them financially, which even the ACLU thinks is wrong and illegal, and is supporting the NRA's lawsuit against NY. Democrat Malfeasance at its finest. In addition, NY AG, who ran on a Anti-NRA platform (NRA is a Terrorist Organization) is currently taking advantage of the NRA being founded in NY to go after their 501c status and attempt to dissolve the NRA. The Trace, source of all these NRA " Exposé " is a creation of Bloomberg, to legitimize Gun Control and Destroy the NRA. And it appears to be working. For those of you saying the NRA brought this on its self, yes, its quite possible after things are proven in court that might be the case. But your talking about a possible few bad apples in a organization that has Millions of members dedicated to defending our 2nd Amendment Rights. But we still have Due Process and Presumption of Innocence to attend to before we start convicting people in the Court of Public Opinion. And for those among us that are actually taking Pleasure in seeing the possible downfall of the NRA, keep in mind that IF the Anti-2A Zealots are successful at destroying the NRA.... Do you think they are going to Stop There ?! They are coming for You and Your Pro-2A Organization Next. I'm looking at You, Gun Owners of America. Don't forget who the Real Enemy is: The Anti-2A Democrat Party. Noble |
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Noble very well stated and I am at a loss to understand some of these comments from people who I thought were interested in facts, liberty and RKBA.
I think some are very envious and jealous of Wayne and others I believe are anti gun trolls who identify with the democrat party goals of only cops and military having guns! Your point of going after GOA and others after the NRA is spot on. These tyrants will stop at nothing to eliminate gun rights and groups that are trying to preserve them. Last edited by ja308; 05-31-2019 at 7:13 PM.. |
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