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Need some free state pistol opinions
In preparing for the move to UT next month, I'm putting together a short list of pistolas I want to check out for carry options. I already have a CZ P-01 which I'll continue to carry, but want to expand my options. Probably a polymer frame since the P-01 is metal frame and would be nice to have a lighter option. Doesn't have to be real compact and I'd like to have decent capacity, like 15+. I'm thinking in the ~$500 price range, give or take.
I've been considering the following so far, all 9mm: S&W M&P 2.0 compact 3.6" barrel CZ P-10 compact Sig P320 compact Walther PPQ 4" barrel I know there are members here who have these so looking for first hand experience. I just want something decently priced with a good reputation and reliable. I also know there are other good options so I'm open to suggestions. This will be just the first of many. As an offshoot, anyone have experience with the FN 509 Tactical 9mm? That would be a full size carry but I've looked at that one too. Intriguing with the extended 24 round mags. Would be good for longer excursions. TIA! Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
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There's also the Walther Q4 tactical, it's optics ready with a great trigger. I have a Q5 match and it's a dream to shoot.
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First on my list would be an Akai AND Atlas open guns. Followed by a couple of their limited rigs.
But I am only into pistols for USPSA and am more of a rifle guy. Enjoy your new found freedom and have fun with your new toys. .
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P365 is a great choice at 12+1 (and it shoots nice, too).
VP9 is worth checking out, too. I wouldn't personally CCW a "tactical" model with suppressor sights and an extended barrel, but that's just me
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Amen to that.
...Or if not into striker fire, P30/(sk), P2000/(sk), 45c, USPc ... all HK, of course! |
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I'm also thinking about a Springfield XDM compact 9mm. I rented one once at a range and was blown away at how well I shot it. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Last edited by MrFancyPants; 12-15-2018 at 11:05 AM.. |
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I went with the P2000SK for edc iso the P30. I made the right choice. Besides, I'm in the minority that would rather have a .40 over a 9 - Any day! On the lookout for a USP Tactical and/or a USP CT, as my sig says. Just puttin it out there! |
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I carried an M&P .40c for a few years. Have moved to a P229 in .357 Sig. I never feel over-gunned and seldom feel under-gunned. I also have the .40 S&W barrel for the P229, so I can pick my poison at the range. Harassed for buying expensive .357 Sig ammo, or harassed for shooting the .40 "Short and Weak." I didn't move to the 229 out of any fault of the S&W .40c. I just picked up the 229 for a good price and after a few range sessions realized I shoot it a lot better. I carried a 1911 for years before the M&P, that may also have had a play in the 229 selecton.
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+1 my brother just got one as a gift from daddy.... man that P365 is freakin nice. Fits very well in the hand and comfortable all around. Itโs the only one itโs size class that can hold 12+1. No wonder these scalpers here want upwards of $1,500 for it here! I see those prices and feel bad for the buyer that has to have it and willing to get ripped another a**hole because they are unfortunate enough to have family in a free state. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Amen Brother! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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You're moving to Utah. Here in Utah you can get anything including switchblades. Prices are the national norm. Whatever you decide check Impact Guns in Salt Lake, Gallenson's in downtown Salt Lake and Doug's Shoot'n Sports in Taylorsville.. Avoid Cabela's..High prices.. except for ammo.
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Having shot all of those guns, i own the P10c and love it. i put a talon grip on it to take the bite off of the grip.
Close 2nd is the M&P 2.0c, I haven't tried the 3.6" but the 4" is a beast. accurate and natural pointing. My brother has the 1.0 3." and it shoots great. I have medium hands and the M&P is more natural for me, I had to put extended controls to get the slide release without changing my grip in any way..... M&P I don't have to move my thumb. P320c is a nice gun but trigger is lack luster. PPQ was disapointing, I expected way better out out of the trigger, but apex makes an aftermarket for it so thats an easy upgrade. I'd say rent a few at the local range but P10c is my vote. I seriously love mine.
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Get a 43, Shield 2.0 or P365. I have all three and I love them all.
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I have an FN Fns9c and that thing is a shooter. The compact comes with 2 12 round mags and a 17 round full size mag plus grip extension.
The full size Fns9 comes with 3 17 round mags. Personally I have not shot the full size. But the compact is great, and a very good carry option as well. |
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If you have larger hands, consider the P320 Carry instead of the compact. The Carry is essentially a Compact with the full size handle.
Also, the newer P365 is dimensionally very close to the Ruger LC9, but allows a magazine capacity that holds more. |
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this is my P320 in FDE - love it, as soon as i figure out a good carry holster for it i'll be using it as one of my CCW firearm too - having that interchangeable trigger group is awesome, much easier for cleaning and it'll also fit into the polymer frame of the regular P320 - im gonna order another frame in black, so i can have a FDE slide and a black frame sometimes
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I really like that FN509 Tactical, took a look at one when I was in PA over thanksgiving. RMR ready and threaded barrel, it’s a bad***** pistol. But without shooting it, have no idea if I’d pick it over a G19X/45 or P320. Hopefully the OP can get a chance to shoot one before deciding.
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It looks like you prefer the larger carry guns. I carry either a S&W Bodyguard 38 (on list) or a Sig P365 (don't believe it is on the CA list). On rare occasions I carry my G19 (first love) or a Kimber Ultra Carry II (surprisingly easy to conceal).
My buddy has the Sig 320 and I like it, its about like carrying my G 19 Gen 3. May get one with an optic for range use, but probably not for carry. I guess it all comes down to what you feel comfortable carrying and shoot well. You should wait till after the move and rent the guns you are interested in to see what you think of them. edit: Concerning firing pin drag on the P365. Mine is fairly new, built Sept 2018. It has firing pin drag but has cycled 100% since new. The drag itself is not of concern; it is only of concern if the firing pin breaks. Mine is only at 425 rounds but have confidence it will hold up. Reportedly SIG has addressed the firing pin issue, as well as a few others, in the latest production runs. Be aware of how Sig sights in their guns with night sights. They use a "European" hold where the front dot needs to cover the intended point of impact, hate it! Will probably change out the front sight, but otherwise accuracy is fine.
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There is nothing simpler and more reliable and a Glock.
There is nothing that holds 15 rounds that is smaller than a Glock 19. The Glock 19 Gen 5 is awesome. I have shot everything on your list, and far and away, I'd get over my hatred of Glocks in a working gun and pick up a 19 Gen 5. Congrats on your move to UT. I'm jealous. I'd buy them all anyway. |
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